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UcannUconn said:
This is going to be a pretty big change. While they are allowing conference-specific rules, here's the general highlights:

- Players can transfer and play immediately as long as their GPA is 3.0 or higher
- Players no longer need permission, but they need to notify the school they want to transfer
- Incoming freshmen can transfer immediately if their coach leaves

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/di-transfer-group-requests-feedback-rule-concepts
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Want to guess how many players are now going to have 2.8 GPAs (enough for athletic, academic, and APR success--but low enough to hinder transferring)?
 
Allowing players to transfer and play immediately is going to significantly destabilize rosters. Bad idea. College basketball needs more continuity, not turnover -- it's bad enough with the one-and-done rule and the g-league option.
 
This could be chaotic. One key element will be timing. What is the window during which this happens? Presumably the NCAA will want these players to complete the academic year. So you find out several key players are gone when? In May? Or do they announce after the tournament? Even then, the misalignment with the recruiting period will create a feeding frenzy.

Essentially, these kids declare free agency, then they can see who stays and goes elsewhere. Shamet leaves WSU...boom, now some PG is looking to transfer there. They need to think through the timing. I have no issue if player A at UCLA decides he wants to go to his home school at say, Illinois. But letting them transfer before they have a destination is going to create a mess.
 
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I don't have the link, but the Big 12 was putting together a proposal after this one came out (the article above is from February) that would modify the rule to this: you could transfer immediately if your coach left or was fired. You would not be able to follow your coach to their new school. You would still have sit out a year under any other situation, except grad transfers.

That seemed to be gathering more momentum among schools and conferences that the proposal above.
 
EROCK CONN said:
Allowing players to transfer and play immediately is going to significantly destabilize rosters. Bad idea. College basketball needs more continuity, not turnover -- it's bad enough with the one-and-done rule and the g-league option.
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I can’t like this enough. Before long we’ll just be having one big draft every July to figure out who plays where. Not really a draft because god knows they will never allow mismajors first pick, but more like free agency. They are really making every effort to turn this game into a pickup league.
 
This is going to be terrible for programs going through a rough stretch. We're going to see what happened to Pitt this year happen at several schools every year, even without coaches getting canned. One bad year will set some programs back five years or more.
 
smh impatient millennials
 
If I get this, a kid with an under 3.0 can still transfer, but has to sit a year. Presumably interconference transfer could still require a waiting period (2 years?) even for the 3.0 kid. This is one of those rules that could be dropped or revised if it turns the game into a free agent system and if the powers that be decide its bad.
 
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I hope it's a complete cluster$@#k. It won't happen the first year, but the second, I hope 3,000 players transfer, whole programs are decimated and can't field teams, and Duke and UK become invincible. Right in the NCAA's pie hole.
 
Horrible. Insane. Beyond stupid.

The squid won't even recruit high school. He will field an all-poached team.
 
I agree this is insanity. Some details are not mentioned like what happens to those with a 2.9 grade point average. They can transfer but have to sit out a year? A semester? They can't transfer? If the Assistant coach that recruited a kid leaves but the HC stays can that kid transfer?
 
UcannUconn said:
This is going to be a pretty big change. While they are allowing conference-specific rules, here's the general highlights:

- Players can transfer and play immediately as long as their GPA is 3.0 or higher
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A 3.0 is super easy to get. I barely even went to class my Freshmen year, really slacked off, etc and barely passed. Got serious my 2nd year and for the rest of my UNI career and got a 3.1 career gpa ... Most of my more studious friends left with 3.5s and 3.75s. Probably could have gotten something similar had I taken Freshmen year more serious.

They could at least increase the minimum IMO.
 
I like this better:

You enroll in a school. If you transfer after you play in a game for that school, you are ineligible. There are plenty of options for kids to play basketball for a living if that is the only reason for attending school in the first place.

If you want to give kids a pass if their coach leaves, fine sit out a year as it is now.

Problem solved.
 
This is designed to allow big schools to raid small ones. You want to embarrass us Loyola. Next year your best underclassmen will play for us. I agree with subba.
 
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Travelman32 said:
A 3.0 is super easy to get. I barely even went to class my Freshmen year, really slacked off, etc and barely passed. Got serious my 2nd year and for the rest of my UNI career and got a 3.1 career gpa ... Most of my more studious friends left with 3.5s and 3.75s. Probably could have gotten something similar had I taken Freshmen year more serious.

They could at least increase the minimum IMO.
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EDIT - READ the link, its recommendations of a 'working group'.
Too much focus on GPA aspect, last thing we need is more NCAA monitoring of anything & schools/coaches whatever making their way around strictly enforced NCAA rules.

I don't think the sit one year thing is broken, I thought this was going to be about the grad transfers playing immediately - essentially the minor problem that this would turn into a massive problem.

My guess is the working group threw the 2nd thing in there so that they can have the equitable outcome of the 'student athletes' can transfer and play immediately because coaches can. No chance players even one-time transfer and play immediately even if limited to Rhodes scholars only.
 
This could be disastrous. Every time a frosh or soph. Gets bothered that they are not getting enough time on the floor they would be gone. No player development over years. How are you supposed to build a program with this system??

This disaster will totally change college hoops. I enjoy watching players grow over 4 years. Usually the teams with a few veterans that came into their own as upperclassmen are the ones that go deep into March.

If a player is really good he is gone pro in a year or two.. Now your going to have to deal with losing a bunch of players to transfer too.
 
A transfer can already play immediately unless it’s within the same conference. My boss’s son plays D1 soccer within the AAC and was considering a transfer - schools within the AAC weren’t going to be an interest because of that rule.
 
browndog319 said:
A transfer can already play immediately unless it’s within the same conference. My boss’s son plays D1 soccer within the AAC and was considering a transfer - schools within the AAC weren’t going to be an interest because of that rule.
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No they can't. If that was the case, Sid Wilson would have played this past year.
 
So say Duke is the odds on favorite to win it all in a particular season, returning everyone but their Center. The best returning center in the country can transfer to Duke to create a super team so long as he has a 3.0 or his coach leaves?
 
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Coaches will hate this because:

A) It will remove a primary means of player control - access to playing time. A player who thinks he isn't getting enough playing time (or worse, doesn't think he is being featured at the level he expects) can use the threat of transfer as leverage.

B) The life of the coach will become a life of perpetual recruiting. Won't that be just eternal bliss?

C) Plans for building teams will be overturned by player empowerment meaning coaching jobs will be at stake over transfers. See comment about player leverage.

But this will only happen if the power conferences want it. They will have to see some financial advantage. That being the case, it's a long way from being a done deal.
 
3.0?
What a pathetic attempt to maintain the facade that big time college sports is somehow based on academics.
I'd be okay with, "in academic good standing" or "not on academic probation," but it's condescending and insulting to tell a kid - if you're averaging a B-, that's better than 30% of your freshman peers, it's good enough to earn course credit, and it's good enough to matriculate. Not good enough if you want to play somewhere else, however.
Unadorned BS.
 
intlzncster said:
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No they can't. If that was the case, Sid Wilson would have played this past year.
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Turns out they have different rules for baseball, football, and basketball which is totally BS. I was trying to figure out why there was this whole process my boss just went through with his son. They should all be the same because it’s harder to transfer out of conference for soccer (not as many schools have D1 soccer) so it’s unfair. They also get far less money.
 
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