NCAA may not decide on APR changes until July now...

[CTGoonie]

Per CBSsports.

you very much NCAA.

Chardis says Uconn has an appeal out now. I thought we already appealed and it was rejected soon afterwards?

 

[HuskyBballFan]

No, we subitted a waiver, which was rejected. We are now appealing that decision.

 

[Yonick]

If this Harrisson committee can't make a decision until July, then they should extend the criterion years automatically.
These guys are playing with peoples lives.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

Here's some food for thought for the NCAA: If it really takes this long to figure out the best way to enforce a rule, maybe you should hold off on enforcing it until you have things figured out.

 

[djct1999]

Seems to me that the media is desperately searching for premature stories on UConn's demise. This article has nothing substantial. Also, I am still confused, is AO def transfering or did he ask for a request to transfer if UConn is banned from the tournament..........I am lost and dizzy.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

Seems to me that the media is desperately searching for premature stories on UConn's demise. This article has nothing substantial. Also, I am still confused, is AO def transfering or did he ask for a request to transfer if UConn is banned from the tournament..........I am lost and dizzy.

I agree with your general sentiment, but this article does include key information - not finding out the final APR outcome until July means further impact to recruiting and other potential transfer decisions after the school year gets out.

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

Just as I predicted. I said from the start that they would eventually lift the postseason ban...but it wouldn't be until late summer after all of the transfer/NBA entry decisions will have been made. The NCAA really is a complete joke!

 

[caw]

It's just such a clusterf@ck.

Let's assume the NCAA is leaning against changing the timeline, UConn gets screwed but everyone else wins. However, if they do this they more or less forfeit the ability to change the years used going forward.

Why? If they decide to change the years used starting next year or the year after or whenever, they are going to end up giving some team/teams a free pass on a year they should have missed the tournament. Unless they have two consecutive years with no team being ineligible.

Let's now assume the NCAA is leaning toward changing the timeline, UConn gets relief but now there is a possibility of many more teams being screwed. That alone isn't really a huge problem. Those schools at least are having their problems based on stuff that isn't completely retroactive. The problem comes with the timing.

If the NCAA decides in July (let's say 15th) to change the years used. It will take some time to process the new data and come up with a new APR for those schools. The NCAA will need to start processing the new data as soon as grades are known in May, or a lot of kids could be seriously screwed trying to find new homes for their final year. Even if they do start to process the new data right away, that would still only allow kids a total of 1.5 months to find a new school. If they start processing the data after that, then you could be down to as little as a few weeks.

The NCAAs best/fairest option would be to keep the current data usage and grant UConn's appeal/waiver. I doubt the NCAA cares about being fair though.

 

[Inyatkin]

Here's some food for thought for the NCAA: If it really takes this long to figure out the best way to enforce a rule, maybe you should hold off on enforcing it until you have things figured out.

Seriously. No one can explain why they absolutely had to start this thing immediately, and couldn't make the rule going forward. As in, starting now, your APR scores matter more. That's all they had to do! Then no complaints about double jeopardy and retroactive punishment.

 

[UCDaveD]

Wouldn't be surprised if the NCAA decides to change the rule and declare us eligible for the 2013 tournament...the day after the 2013 tournament ends.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

Seriously. No one can explain why they absolutely had to start this thing immediately, and couldn't make the rule going forward. As in, starting now, your APR scores matter more. That's all they had to do! Then no complaints about double jeopardy and retroactive punishment.

The explanation is that the NCAA wanted to flex its muscles and prove to everyone "how serious they are about academics." So they rushed to create the APR formula, even though the formula doesn't make sense for men's basketball the way it might for, say, women's track and field. Then they decided their punishments weren't severe enough, so they again rushed to create an enforcement timeline that also doesn't make sense.

 

[suzyq]

Seriously. No one can explain why they absolutely had to start this thing immediately, and couldn't make the rule going forward. As in, starting now, your APR scores matter more. That's all they had to do! Then no complaints about double jeopardy and retroactive punishment.

It's inexcusable . The same organization cleared Cam Newton to play in about 18 hours. They have computers , they aren't trying to do this by counting fingers and toes right? Hmmm, let me see if I can find the diference in the two situations...

 

[Rico444]

I love how it takes them 8 months to decide something like this, but only one day to reject our waiver request.

 

[champs99and04]

The NCAA is complete bull . It's pretty clear that they are trying to screw over UConn, and they aren't being overly subtle about it anymore. Pushing the decision off to July is going to A) Give Lamb and Drummond more incentive to go pro B) Give more incentive to kids thinking about transferring and C) Kill recruiting.

If they can't hurry the *k up on this then they can't enforce it next year. Forget the fact that they are enforcing it retroactively as it is. *k them.

 

[caw]

I love how it takes them 8 months to decide something like this, but only one day to reject our waiver request.

Not to mention accept a nearly identical one from another school.

 

[superjohn]

It's absolutely disgusting what the NCAA is doing to UConn. Sue the hell out of them, something needs to be done.

 

[8893]

Wait a minute: Have we requested that they move quickly? Or have we learned nothing from Miami's fine example?

 

[CL82]

I not a huge fan of rushing to court, but this is a place where filing suit and enjoining the NCAA from applying a new test but using old data makes sense.

The game was rigged. There was no mathmathical way the university could comply. This is the stroy that media needs to tell and they will if we draft a well structured complaint. The damage to reputation and to the students athletes who will never get back this year of eligiblity can't be corrected monetarily. I think that we'd prevail.

 

[champs99and04]

I not a huge fan of rushing to court, but this is a place where filing suit and enjoining the NCAA from applying a new test but using old data makes sense.

The game was rigged. There was no mathmathical way the university could comply. This is the stroy that media needs to tell and they will if we draft a well structured complaint. The damage to reputation and to the students athletes who will never get back this year of eligiblity can't be corrected monetarily. I think that we'd prevail.

You make a good point about the "reputations" of the student athletes. I'm not sure if this is court material, but outsiders are going to think that the kids on the team currently are the reason UConn's not eligible for the NCAA Tournament. That would be far from the truth though, and while they may be punishing the program, they are also punishing 12-15 kids who have done everything the right way. If you're going to have a system like this in place, you have to make sure you are using the current data.

 

[art4life]

I hope we have a team of cut-throat lawyers on this.

The whole Boatright fiasco was infuriating enough.
Now this never-ending bull$hit?
"Um, we'll decide the APR stuff during the April 25th meeting. Er, no let's wait til July....Oh wait - everyone's on vacation then.....how about October? No? How's about November....Oh wait, the holidays - next January....."

 

[specialisthusky]

Correct me if I am oversimplifying this, but why doesn't this policy go into effect TODAY but the lower APR score penalties not be enforced until the 4th year thus providing ALL teams with the same knowledge and ability to comply with the score and its scoring standards.

 

[UCFBfan]

Wouldn't be surprised if the NCAA decides to change the rule and declare us eligible for the 2013 tournament...the day after the 2013 tournament ends.

No they'll wait until we are out of tournament contention. Didn't they repeal UL-Monroe's ban after they posted a 2-28 record??

 

[caw]

I hope we have a team of cut-throat lawyers on this.

The whole Boatright fiasco was infuriating enough.
Now this never-ending bull$hit?
"Um, we'll decide the APR stuff during the April 25th meeting. Er, no let's wait til July....Oh wait - everyone's on vacation then.....how about October? No? How's about November....Oh wait, the holidays - next January....."

They were actually supposed to meet Feb. 22nd initially.

 

[Danzz]

Per CBSsports.

you very much NCAA.

Chardis says Uconn has an appeal out now. I thought we already appealed and it was rejected soon afterwards?

And you were expecting what, a quick and efficient decision? Uconn decisions take time with the NCAA.

 

[Inyatkin]

Correct me if I am oversimplifying this, but why doesn't this policy go into effect TODAY but the lower APR score penalties not be enforced until the 4th year thus providing ALL teams with the same knowledge and ability to comply with the score and its scoring standards.

Because that would make entirely too much sense.