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Message: [QUOTE="champs99and04, post: 2745935, member: 488"] I don't refute any of that, and it's true that LeBron has regressed substantially on defense over the last five years, but I can just as easily find data to support the claim that LeBron is as good or better on that end. LeBron is a 1.9 in Defensive Box +/- for his career while Jordan is at 1.1 (a significant difference when multiplied over a dozen plus years). LeBron's career playoff defensive rating is also better than Jordan's, and his season best in defensive wins shares peaks at a higher number (6.5 for LeBron, 6.2 for MJ). But what separates them to me is the fact that LeBron can guard all five positions and practically re-invented the game with his versatility. Maybe we only see that apex in spurts these days, but in my mind it's still a clear trump card in LeBron's favor. [/QUOTE]