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Message: [QUOTE="champs99and04, post: 2739215, member: 488"] Eh. I'm as much of a sucker for Jordan folklore as the next guy, but whatever it is he did with the Wizards just doesn't wow me. He's the greatest ever. Of course he can step in at age 39 and still put up numbers. Tim Duncan was an all-NBA caliber player at age 38. That's much more notable to me than the traveling circus Jordan had going. I don't actually think boredom was what drove Jordan out. I'd be more likely to describe Shaq or Wilt that way. Jordan was just a pathological competitor who had his demons off the court. Perhaps he acted like he had nothing left to prove after three titles in a row, but in the back of his mind he knew there'd always be something to prove. That's what made him him. Jordan burning himself out was a condition of his greatness, a prophecy if you will. I have no problem seeing him as the GOAT, I just struggle to credit him for things that he didn't do. [/QUOTE]