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Message: [QUOTE="tzznandrew, post: 2738492, member: 168"] LeBron did what before Wade? Make his way through a horrific East? I mean, his performance against the Pistons was fantastic, but the 2007 Pistons weren't the 1989 Pistons, Celtics, etc. Holding Jordan losing to those teams against him when he clearly had an inferior team is like holding all LeBron's finals losses against him. Since the Celtics broke down in 2011, really, there hasn't been a team that can compete. It's been LeBron vs. the West, which is a different scenario than the Bulls, who at least always had the Knicks (minimally). Dumb people will hold the Magic series against him. That's dumb. But the 2010 Celtics series and the 2011 Mavericks series were both series where LeBron wimped out on the biggest stage in a way that Jordan didn't. No doubt Bosh makes the HOF. Love is more borderline, though he's at least 50-50. Kyrie is only 25 and his Basketball-Reference HOF calculator is already at 36%. Regardless, Pippen at his peak is not as good as Wade at his peak, and Bosh is better than Rodman. Horace Grant is essentially a LOL. [/QUOTE]