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Message: [QUOTE="champs99and04, post: 2729377, member: 488"] My reason for invoking LeBron is mostly subjective. He obviously plays a different position than LeBron, and more importantly, his presence stands to re-route the trajectory LeBron left in his wake rather than continue it. He's the rare player who can small ball proof the league. I'm not sure KAT can do that. But there is a certain cackling that I imagine basketball degenerates do when they watch Embiid play that can't really be translated to anything other then "wow, everybody is screwed if he figures this out." You saw it with Shaq, you saw it with LeBron. I'm not sure anybody else this side of the millennium reached that level. Garnett, Durant, and Davis were physical freaks in their own right, but they were jump shooters first. LeBron's inclination was never to bully people; he wanted to beat you with his brain, and he usually did. That's why he's LeBron - Shaq's physique and Magic's acumen rolled into one. Even if I see another player as good, I don't think I'll ever see one with that combination of gifts. He deserves consideration as the greatest athlete of all-time even if people agree Jordan was the better basketball player. [/QUOTE]