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Message: [QUOTE="Dogdeacon, post: 2715984, member: 1026"] Yes but: A. Embid sat TWO YEARS, was on a severe minute restriction last year and somewhat this year including being babied down the stretch due to FULTZ hurting his wee cheeckbones (sorry). If Embid was stronger in the 4th Q this woulda been a 6 or 7 game series. B. Likewise Simmons skipped his first year and just played one regular season. He's never won anything in the US and when you combine this with his glaringly obvious shooting deficiency he was VERY beatable in a playoff situation. People didn't see these things going in because they are SUPERSTARS and the potential is there, but both players had very clear physical-basketball related limitations that were going to be tested cuz that's what happens in the playoffs. [/QUOTE]