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Message: [QUOTE="Dogdeacon, post: 2710487, member: 1026"] I don’t think Embif’s upside rivals Shaq’s at onset of O’Neals career but we all acknowledge Shaq didn’t care quite enough yet was still an all-timer. Embid if healthy has a chance to approach what Shaq actually was in terms of regular season numbers, but I don’t think he’s a championship ticket the way Shaq was in multiple places. And even now the health thing and ability to stay on the court is a big deal. Oft injured big men have mostly disappointments on their NBA retrospectives. A good Embid comp is Ralph Sampson. Thought to be a game changer and had skills and size, just too fragile. Hopefully Joel, (after this season or playoff series ;) gets healthier and has a longer more consistently productive career. [/QUOTE]