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Message: [QUOTE="champs99and04, post: 2705331, member: 488"] What are you disagreeing with? Cleveland was a +6 in the five minutes LeBron didn't play and won by four (granted the garbage time three is defended differently with a lesser margin) - it's a pretty non-controversial point to say they lost the game there. Indiana is thin outside of Oladipo. The fact that they won only 42 games last year without him (but with Paul George) is telling. It's not like they're Philly where you look at the roster and see a bunch of building blocks. It's Oladipo and then some young big men who might develop into something or might not. Nobody is looking at that team as a threat long-term. [/QUOTE]