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Message: [QUOTE="Dogdeacon, post: 2699573, member: 1026"] A. You are assuming Philly as of right now in their 'haven't won a playoff series yet' state. Assuming they win round 1, favorite in round 2 and have a 50-50 chance in next series, joining them this offseason could be viewed similarly to Durant's move. B. I think new mercenary Laker squad is his best hope cuz then he can garner some of the team building credit again AND preserve the crucially important argument that he never had a HOF coach ;) C. If Philly is in the 2018 finals it is directly comparable to KD even without a prior title. Cleveland losing to Toronto (instead of Philly) won't mitigate this. Similarly if LeBron chooses a Houston team that loses to Golden State in the Western finals (this years defacto NBA championship) a LeBron jump to Houston is fair game for front-running, title chasing criticism. D. So what, goal is to win titles, when you pick players on the schoolyard you don't try to make your team worse so that it'll mean more and enhance your status. Goal is to win. E. Nothing is permanent. I don't know that Durant ever was or will be in the GOAT discussion, but equally he's not permanently removed and IF he wins another title this year they'll be chatter about is he the best player in the NBA right now. Overall though Durant's GOAT status is hurt by ongoing situation that LeBron, Curry, Harden, Westbrook and some coming (The Brow, The Freak, Simmons/Embid) have laid claim to best player in the league during KD's career. Whereas LeBron via his finals trips has continually proven that he's the winningest, most important or valuable player in the league for 10 years & counting. [/QUOTE]

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