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Message: [QUOTE="Dogdeacon, post: 3745635, member: 1026"] I agree on Thybulle, he might have been even better than Clarke in that he would have made Smart expendable. Smart being their most trade-able contract & the guy that jacked up 20 shots when forced into starters minutes and role due to Hayward's ineffectiveness. IF Ainge took Fultz he'd be justifiably gone. To trade down for an NBA all-star in exchange for a guy that barely plays and is traded for a 2nd rounder is a fleece regardless. If Portland traded down to #2 and took Durant instead of Oden or 2 to #3 and took Jordan instead of Bowie, these things would be talked about as long as there is an NBA. Let's see what Tatum does (an hopefully Fultz salvages more of his career), but that trade is within a whisker of legendary draft day swaps & blunders And of course if Philly had Tatum they probably win the finals in 2019 and make it again in 2020. [/QUOTE]