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Message: [QUOTE="Dogdude, post: 5345747, member: 13168"] In the end, it's always the players vs. the owners. They have the dough, and all the other people involved are just conduits for the negotiations. All the talking heads right now are making this more complicated than necessary. But the owners better start talking, as these negotiations have a wild card that complicates things, and that's the fans, who are seemingly hard on the side of the players, and they're not afraid to walk to either Unrivaled or their favorite college teams. They can't wait too long, or things get tougher. If I'm an owner, I'd start pushing to dump Englebert right now and get started by giving the players both more dough and superior officiating right off the bat, and then start niggling on the details. But they should be starting with a pretty grand gesture quickly, as the college season and Unrivaled are starting up, and we won't miss that odd WWE-ball that for some reason the league is passing off as basketball. [/QUOTE]