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Message: [QUOTE="LStudfellow, post: 5266409, member: 5436"] Or Kayvon Thibodeaux or Deonte Banks, either. Goes to show you the difference a good GM versus a bad one makes. Pivotal to the success or failure of a franchise. Sure, it is easy to say that Dave Gettleman was bad... because he was. But the truth is that Joe Schoen so far has done a particularly lousy job as GM also. I thought he was an excellent hire in 2022. But his track record so far stinks. [B]To date: [/B] 1. Malik Nabors is the first 1st round draft choice he has hit on... 1 for 4. The 2022 draft with Thibodeaux and Neal in particular sticks out as a disaster. Also, not much good has come out of the later rounds either. On his 3 drafts Joe Schoen has been a failure. Grade: Failure 2. Brian Daboll hiring. Looked good for the first year... but then his spat with Wink Martindale that caused Wink to leave, lack of control over the locker room and puzzling in game decisions the last couple of years marks this as a failure also. So Schoen keeps Daboll and lets Martindale go. Turned out to be the wrong choice. Grade: Failure. 3. Signing Daniel Jones long term, letting Saquon Barkley go to the Eagles. Both terrible decisions. It looked even worse if you watched "Hard Knocks" and you saw Schoen talk about him. Schoen was clueless of Barkley's value to the franchise vs. Jones. Your the freaking GM! That is an integral part of your job, knowing the importance of your personnel. Grade: Failure 4. Biggest move of last off season was to trade for Brian Burns for 2nd and 5th round picks, and then gave him a 5-year, $150 million contract with $87 million of that guaranteed. You give up that much for a guy, he better be a difference maker. But if you watched the Giants last year you know that Burns was not nearly that much of a difference maker. Obviously, since they sucked most of the year. Grade: Failure. 5. One of most important jobs: how you manuever the cap. According to several reliable sources, including Sports Illustrated, the Giants are 14th in cap space. Yet they were arguably, along with the Browns the worst team in the league. So, they are over-paying for the talent they do have on the roster. This of course falls directly on the GM. Grade: Failure Therefore, the guy has literally succeeded at hardly anything (give him Nabors on the draft and Bobby Okereke on free agency, but not much else) since he has been the GM. Very disappointing. And it shows you how valuable the GM is in the NFL, for sure. Two bad GM's in a row, along with Jerry Reese also struggling over the last few years of his tenure than ended in 2017 and this is what results: 10 years of the worst franchise (at least record-wise) in all of the NFL. Over 10 years of lousy football... AND WE'VE HAD ENOUGH!!! [/QUOTE]

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