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Message: [QUOTE="Matrim55, post: 5276610, member: 3376"] Ray mfing Allen [LIST] [*]hit the defining shot in 2 finals series (iso game 4 of 2008 to put the Celtics up 3-1, and you know what the other is) [*]was the best player on a Bucks team that would’ve been in a final if not for the league rigging the series against them [*]outplayed Kobe head-to-head in one final [*]underrated defender who held Kobe to 6-for-24 in a game 7 of another final [*]second-best movement shooter of all-time who’d be 30% more valuable in today’s game [/LIST] Bill Russell [LIST] [*]if we measure greatness by impact on winning, then Russell is in the GOAT convo with LeBron, MJ & Kareem (paint protection was THE most important attribute the first 30 years of the NBA) [*]important secondary offensive initiator [*]best leader in sports history who elevated and inspired everyone around him (Celtics had a losing record without him over the course of his career) [/LIST] If Russell played today he’d be a 6-foot-10 draymond with Amen Thompson’s athleticism and Giannis’s vertical spacing. But too many young folks buy the plumbers and firemen line. And even old heads don’t understand that while he was limited offensively as an individual, his impact as an amplifier and force magnifier on that end was significant. Basically the polar opposite of Wilt, whose individual stats were insane but whose impact metrics were relatively meh. Honorable mention: Cliff Robinson Another one of our guys who’d be 30% more valuable in today’s game. [/QUOTE]

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