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Message: [QUOTE="noeynox, post: 5074688, member: 156"] Bottom line for me, at JSU, Prime had athletes the other programs at that level simply could not match. So he looked like Saban. At this level even 5 star talents like Hunter and Shadeur are NOT enough. Everyone they play has game breakers. Now the value he creates in terms of marketing and fan interest/ selling out definitely has value but without wins that will fade. A good comparison is when Charlie Weiss went to Notre Dame and proclaimed they would have X's and O's advantage every week. Other coaches sneered at that, and the rest is history. [/QUOTE]