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Message: [QUOTE="SimpleDawg, post: 3513062, member: 9267"] Yeah.... Pokey Chatman was really consistent. Too bad that scandal within the program took you guys down. The only issue I take is nobody in the State fanbase is willing to entertain the fact that we can go downhill just like that, and 99% of the fanbase is completely one-sided on McCray - and this is the exact type of attitude I fear will keep her here longer than she needs to be were she to fail. And perhaps you're right on Vic as a recruiter, but that was a peripheral focus of my argument. I think he's a very good recruiter, I just don't think he's Dawn or Mulkey on the recruiting front. That partly has to do with Starkville, like you said. But also I think...... Walz', Dawn's, or Mulkey's perception in the world of elite athletics is stronger where Vic is seen as more of a niche kinda dude that's not the first coach generally on people's minds. Although it does seem like a lot of the Southeast players lately all the way to Texas at least considers MSU. [/QUOTE]