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Message: [QUOTE="bmayuc, post: 4400540, member: 493"] This whole idea that "2pgs" is the formula misses a key point - are they good or not, and area they establisehd/reliable. 2014 we had no questions. Shabazz' team Boat a solid vet. 2011 we had no questions. Kembas team, literally no one knew Bazz. '99 we had no questions about who the man was at PG - it was Khalid. You think there was a preseason "battle" ? Same with '04. We knew damn well the roles Taliek and Ben were going to play, there was no uncertainty. The point here is that it is unclear we have any point guards, any established quality or leadership, any play initiators, playmakers on this team, and that uncertainty 30 days before the seasons starts points more to negatives than positives [/QUOTE]