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Message: [QUOTE="Yawin4Heisman, post: 4192825, member: 2872"] Mid-range j’s are just not a good shot from an EV standpoint… Period… love all the armchair experts this topic brings out who apparently know more about it than the people whose full time job it is to study this sort of stuff… (and as if the experts haven’t considered the counterarguments before… c’mon) 1) we don’t shoot mid-range j’s at a high enough % to warrant taking them… not sure why there’s a need to speculate or debate this - we have shot charts of makes/misses for every game this year. Just take a look. 2-6 from mid-range vs Nova (some of which I think came after passing up possible 3’s) vs 8-20 on 3’s Creighton game even worse - took double digit mid-range attempts and looks like we made 2… I’m sure there’s games which are outliers but that isn’t the point as the %’s needed long-term to make it worthwhile just aren’t there… also, you don’t get to the foul line as often (which impacts the EV and seems to have been overlooked in this chat unless I missed it) taking mid-range j’s which is another reason why teams emphasize attacking the basket when not taking 3’s 2) what’s the recruiting pitch - “hey we’re gonna teach you a skill / run an offense that no NBA GM values”… let’s leave that to Cuse with their 2-3 zone… not to mention as already mentioned it’s not a skill that’s emphasized at the high school level anymore which brings me to 3… 3) love using the examples of some of the greatest shooters / mid-range j shooters to ever play the game as evidence a mid-range j strategy can work… well aside from the fact none currently play for us, there will be less and less of those guys in the future cause of what players are taught in HS so good luck building a team around the concept nowadays [/QUOTE]

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