Mercedes Russell's team wins state title 16-7

[sarals24]

Apologies if this has been posted. Ridiculous.

LINK

 

[Wonkster]

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Here's an 8-7 game, but much more exciting!

http://tinyurl.com/75owagk
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[Sonny44]

Boring, but a creative approach.

 

[speedoo]

Hmm. This does not exactly support the notion advanced by folks out west that there is suddenly a big spurt in HS talent out there. No wonder MR has decided to play college ball in the east.

 

[MilfordHusky]

Just a few thoughts.

Dean Smith. Phil Ford. Four corners. Shot clock.

 

[Wbbfan1]

Games like the above set back Women's HS Basketball.

 

[Sonny44]

Hmm. This does not exactly support the notion advanced by folks out west that there is suddenly a big spurt in HS talent out there. No wonder MR has decided to play college ball in the east.

I thought it was because she's not a surfer.

 

[alexrgct]

http://www.s.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/IySPC.gif

16-7???

 

[alexrgct]

Congrats to Mercedes on the state championship.

But did the team photo look something like this?

 

[sarals24]

What I don't understand is why Mercedes' team didn't come out and pressure the ball and force the other team to play. Even though there's no shot clock, there is a five second count. I understand a spread offense and slowing the game down, but one shot per quarter is insane.

 

[alexrgct]

What I don't understand is why Mercedes' team didn't come out and pressure the ball and force the other team to play. Even though there's no shot clock, there is a five second count. I understand a spread offense and slowing the game down, but one shot per quarter is insane.

maybe once they got a 4-0 lead, they realized it was insurmountable.

 

[sarals24]

That's why we say in my 5th grade league! Once we get up by four points, it's pretty much insurmountable

 

[RockyMTblue2]

I didn't know Harry P was moonlighting in Oregon. Can't Villanova afford to give him a decent salary?

 

[Kait14]

If I were a player on Willamette, I might have exploded on that coach.. How disrespectful to his players.. That's basically saying to them, "Well guys, we have absolutely no chance to beat them, so you are going to just hold the ball as long as you can." .. Pathetic

 

[RockyMTblue2]

"Springfield's clearly only been coached to play zone defense, and so putting pressure on Willamette to pass the ball wasn't really possible." From the linked article. Wow, could that be possible and as a prior poster (Wbbfan1) said, not good for womens' hoops at all.

 

[Kait14]

"Springfield's clearly only been coached to play zone defense, and so putting pressure on Willamette to pass the ball wasn't really possible." From the linked article. Wow, could that be possible and as a prior poster (Wbbfan1) said, not good for womens' hoops at all.

That's not true at all.. Deadspin is a sarcastic site. There's only so much you can do when there is no shot clock

 

[MilfordHusky]

We joke about the Rutgers scores, but I don't think we've ever said "First team to TEN wins."

 

[huskyblooz]

Games like the above set back Women's HS Basketball.

it happens in boys basketball too

 

[RockyMTblue2]

http://www.s.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/IySPC.gif

16-7???

I know, it's disgusting. He and the guy behind him should do their coke at home!

 

[huskybill]

In the first place it was first team to 8, not 10, winning. In second place the fact that 2 Oregon high school teams played one game says nothing about the state of western basketball or women's basketball except that it might cause Oregon to consider a shot clock. I guess you guys don't remember that the colleges in the fifties and sixties played very low scoring games and led to the shot clock. Not only colleges with lesser talent would hold the ball, but even supremely talented teams such as Dean Smith's North Carolina team would get a short lead and go into the four corner delay game.

 

[Louisville]

Jeff Walz was there visiting with Mercedes and watching her in the state playoffs but I really wonder what he thought as he was sitting there watching that. He is a pretty passionate coach and I am sure he wanted Springfield's coach to turn up the heat but like most HS coaches -- They can't coach! As for the other coach he should really apologize to everyone who was in attendance who wasted their money and time to watch ball stalling and the whistling for 7 minutes.

Good news is that I think Louisville is the clear leader for Mercedes.

 

[Icebear]

Most folks don't seem to remember the era of UNC's four corner offense and killing the clock or even more Ashland University's efforts in the 1960s to keep games under 10. Legend correctly or incorrectly they won a game 4-2. I can't find the proper search to document it.

Tennessee vs Temple 11 - 6 on December 15, 1973.

 

[magical2]

In the first place it was first team to 8, not 10, winning. In second place the fact that 2 Oregon high school teams played one game says nothing about the state of western basketball or women's basketball except that it might cause Oregon to consider a shot clock. I guess you guys don't remember that the colleges in the fifties and sixties played very low scoring games and led to the shot clock. Not only colleges with lesser talent would hold the ball, but even supremely talented teams such as Dean Smith's North Carolina team would get a short lead and go into the four corner delay game.

Many States do have a shot clock in High School! I was not aware that Oregon did not,but after the publicity that this game is getting,it would not surprise me if Oregon does consider a shot clock!
This reminded me of times when there was not a shot clock in different levels of play from High School,College,Professional! Professional/NBA realized that a clock would benefit the game by having higher scoring games. In college,I can remember a # of games when Lew Alcindor<Kareem Abdul Jabar> was playing for UCLA during the Wooden dynasty,and a few coaches used the approach of holding onto the ball creating a few rediculous scores similar to the Oregon game Most opponents could not achieve it because of UCLA's pressing defense. These were the kind of scores that existed when basketball was 1st being played.
Huskybill is correct when he mentions North Carolina,Dean Smith and the infamous "4 corner offense". Thank God there is a clock in most high schools,college,International,fiba,the WNBA and NBA. The amt of time does vary between Men and Women,and organizations varying between 24 secs to 35secs. You do see it today to the extent that teams will use the clock to slow down the game,make it into a half court game or"milk the clock" use up as much of the time as they can on a possession!

 

[RockyMTblue2]

In the first place it was first team to 8, not 10, winning. In second place the fact that 2 Oregon high school teams played one game says nothing about the state of western basketball or women's basketball except that it might cause Oregon to consider a shot clock. I guess you guys don't remember that the colleges in the fifties and sixties played very low scoring games and led to the shot clock. Not only colleges with lesser talent would hold the ball, but even supremely talented teams such as Dean Smith's North Carolina team would get a short lead and go into the four corner delay game.

Heck, Cornell tried to hold the ball on Princeton when they had Bill Bradley! Thanks for the reminder.

 

[Kait14]

Many States do have a shot clock in High School! I was not aware that Oregon did not,but after the publicity that this game is getting,it would not surprise me if Oregon does consider a shot clock!
This reminded me of times when there was not a shot clock in different levels of play from High School,College,Professional! Professional/NBA realized that a clock would benefit the game by having higher scoring games. In college,I can remember a # of games when Lew Alcindor<Kareem Abdul Jabar> was playing for UCLA during the Wooden dynasty,and a few coaches used the approach of holding onto the ball creating a few rediculous scores similar to the Oregon game Most opponents could not achieve it because of UCLA's pressing defense. These were the kind of scores that existed when basketball was 1st being played.
Huskybill is correct when he mentions North Carolina,Dean Smith and the infamous "4 corner offense". Thank God there is a clock in most high schools,college,International,fiba,the WNBA and NBA. The amt of time does vary between Men and Women,and organizations varying between 24 secs to 35secs. You do see it today to the extent that teams will use the clock to slow down the game,make it into a half court game or"milk the clock" use up as much of the time as they can on a possession!

I doubt Oregon will implement shot clocks.. schools are struggling financially here, and it's really expensive to put a shot clock in every gym.. It's a sad tactic, and I'm disappointed the coach did that after he specifically said he was "done catering the game plan to Mercedes"