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Message: [QUOTE="RuffRuff, post: 5314568, member: 1268"] If wagering a guess based on a lot of info that's already out there, including schools already expressing their interest in parting ways: [B]B10 (currently at 18, likely max out at 24)[/B] UNC/UVa - B10 locks. ND once/if they fold. These would be automatics - fits are too good. GATech/Miami - B10 possibilities Duke - B10 maybe to fill out the 24 Then there are also Cal & Stanford still out there, would seem a really odd long term fit in the ACC but not sure their FB brands are strong enough for the B10. [B]SEC (currently at 16, likely max out at 18-20)[/B] Clemson/FSU - SEC locks. Some arguing that SEC already has this footprint, but Florida is a massive growing state & hotbed you want to own. SEC has two schools in multiple states (Bama, Miss), and it creates great inter-conference rivalries (check Bama/Auburn for how meaningful those are). Clemson is a top 10-12 football brand, why wouldn't you want them? These a high value/brand programs. Va Tech/NC St - SEC maybes. Would give them presence in new markets & round out. [B]B12 (currently 16, likely max out at 18-20)[/B] Pitt/Ville - would pod out nicely with Cinci & WV NC St/VA Tech - if the SEC doesn't take Leaves Wake, Cuse, BC and SMU. Not a lot of value there (separating Cal/Stanford out for now). Cuse is in a dead part of the country and loses it's identity not being connected to NYC. Wake is the small baby brother of the triangle and lucky to even be in a P4. BC is on it's Catholic island and seemingly abandoned any desire to be good athletically. Uconn gives the B12 another state flagship and an anchor in the NYC area. Maybe we go over with SMU. We'll be in a pool of leftovers the B12 can pick through alongside the networks. Best guess conservatively is that ACC loses 4 once GOR is up. FSU & Clemson already have one foot out the door. Once they're gone, the ACC is firmly a second rate football conference. UNC & UVa are foundational universities for the ACC, so if they follow suit to the B10, then it totally destabilizes. UNC has already publicly expressed their interest. You lose easily your top 2 football brands and your 2 original staple flagships, you're officially fractured at the top of the football and political hierarchy that is the ACC. What it will take for ND to fold will be interesting. The SEC & B10 are not stopping and they have all the power at this point, and the ACC has the goods they want. Take those 4 schools, and anyone left behind is going to be running for their lives & easy pickens. Best bet for us is that NCSt & Va Tech go to the SEC and leave a couple spots open in the B12. Unlike the last go, Uconn should have higher perceived forward value than BC & Cuse, even though we are valued less today (mainly because of conference affiliation). Yormark is way smarter than anyone over in the ACC. He's perfectly happy with the second raters that the P2 doesn't want and will brand the heck out of it and differentiate creatively, as he's already shown. Meanwhile the ACC is fractured, reactive, resting on it's laurels and adding oddballs that make no long term sense. As is the B12 has 5 flagships to the ACC's 3 (UVa, UNC and Cal). We keep talking about the P2 taking over, but there are too many schools out there to fall into 2 conferences, so it's likely to land on P2 +1, with the P2 running the show, and likely breaking away from the NCAA. Have to think an entrepreneurial guy like Yormark is light years ahead in that thought process versus a consensus driven lifelong AD type like Phillips. [/QUOTE]

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