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Message: [QUOTE="UCfor3, post: 5125926, member: 567"] Refs were bad. With that said, Hurley needs to show some self control. No excuse for that. Both him and SJ showed lack of composure. I'm never big on starting lineup shakeups. They are vastly overrated on this board but we might have to shake things up a bit at PG and C. Reed is obvious. I think Mahaney will be fine eventually, but he is better served as a shooter and handler off the bench right now. He is a bit tentative in new evironment and our starts are slow and his defense is a problem. His lack of size and strength is an issue. Like him better as a combo shooter while he gets his sea legs and ease him into the lead guard role if he adjusts and improves. Our entire starting lineup fouls way too much. Also think our lack of athleticism was apparent at times. Think we will get better and be fine overall. If you are expecting same dominance of last two years you will probably be disappointed. Our gaurds are just not as good both offensively and defensively and while Reed looks great, not having Clingan inside is obviously a downgrade. Need to fix defense and fouling first and foremost. Will improve but there might be some physical limitations with our personel that prevent it from being a real positive. Btw, where was Stewart in 2nd half? He bricked a 3 from baseline relatively early in 2nd half and then barely played after dominating. [/QUOTE]