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Media going after DiVincenzo now

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superjohn said:
It's all over the internet and they talked about it on the sports shows. Kid has the night of his life and now he has people accusing him of being a racist and homophobe. Idiots everywhere.
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He said some dumb things he probably shouldn't have. I know I did too when I was that age. So glad we didn't have Facebook or Twitter then (or that I'm not at all famous so no one would ever look back at those if I did at that age).

There's no news here other than ammunition for opposing fans.
 
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superjohn said:
Someone was on one of the sports shows saying he needs to address this and apologize. We've lost our damn minds.
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Wait... what's wrong with that? "You know, I did and said some dumb **** when I was 14, including a word that no non-black person should ever use, as well as some stuff that could be seen as homophobic. I did it because I thought it was edgy and transgressive, but in actuality it was just dumb and offensive. I regret it, and I hope that any kid growing up who sees those tweets of mine won't follow in those footsteps."

Guarantee that'd be the end of it.
 
Whether we are going to judge him by this or not, the point is that someone is--rightly or wrongly. Always.

Maybe part of the lesson here is that a 14-year old shouldn't have a twitter account, and that kids need to realize that they're writing in ink when they tweet. It's not the same as joking among friends.
 
8893 said:
Whether we are going to judge him by this or not, the point is that someone is--rightly or wrongly. Always.

Maybe part of the lesson here is that a 14-year old shouldn't have a twitter account, and that kids need to realize that they're writing in ink when they tweet. It's not the same as joking among friends.
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14 year olds on instagram, Snapchat, Twitter et al are pretty stupid.
 
Well, I absolutely hate the price people pay for nonsense on social media, but this is a special kind of messed up.

On the other hand, serves him right for going off like that last night.
 
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TRest said:
I have to monitor social media accounts of the legal opposition sometimes. Suburban 18 year old white girls drop more n-words every day on twitter than this kid appeared to have done in 3 years.
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Yeah, all that and stupid duck faces. Good lord
 
Matrim55 said:
Wait... what's wrong with that? "You know, I did and said some dumb **** when I was 14, including a word that no non-black person should ever use, as well as some stuff that could be seen as homophobic. I did it because I thought it was edgy and transgressive, but in actuality it was just dumb and offensive. I regret it, and I hope that any kid growing up who sees those tweets of mine won't follow in those footsteps."

Guarantee that'd be the end of it.
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Because he was 14 and he has nothing to apologize for. I don't think everyone should be apologizing for what they said or wrote when they were little kids and it's ridiculous for grown ups to tell them to. He dropped a rap lyric.

Caron was dealing rocks and carrying guns when he was 14, he also has nothing to apologize for.
 
superjohn said:
Because he was 14 and he has nothing to apologize for. I don't think everyone should be apologizing for what they said or wrote when they were little kids and it's ridiculous for grown ups to tell them to. He dropped a rap lyric.

Caron was dealing rocks and carrying guns when he was 14, he also has nothing to apologize for.
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I mean, I just totally disagree with this. I don't think Caron's life should've been ruined (it wasn't), and I don't think DeVincenzo's should be (it isn't). But I absolutely think it's appropriate to teach our kids right from wrong both in public and private.

Don't use those words. Don't be homophobic. It's not a capital offense but there's absolutely nothing wrong with teaching a kid to man up and apologize when he's put his foot in it.
 
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Matrim55 said:
I mean, I just totally disagree with this. I don't think Caron's life should've been ruined (it wasn't), and I don't think DeVincenzo's should be (it isn't). But I absolutely think it's appropriate to teach our kids right from wrong both in public and private.

Don't use those words. Don't be homophobic. It's not a capital offense but there's absolutely nothing wrong with teaching a kid to man up and apologize when he's put his foot in it.
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It burns me when I see adults who I'm sure have done far worse telling kids/young men they need to apologize for things they said or wrote when they were legitimately little kids.

Kobe calls someone a "bleeping f^g" and yes he should apologize and handle any punishment the league sees fit. If we're going to scour the social media profiles of 13 and 14 year old's and tell them to apologize for things they said now that they are young men/adults then we've lost our way.

You seriously think he needs to apologize for typing a rap lyric from one of the most popular songs that dropped a week before he made the tweet? Let's go after racists for being racists and not go after someone who is pretty clearly not racist and instead just a kid who recited a rap lyric. This type of stuff only detracts from the very really problem of racism.
 
superjohn said:
It burns me when I see adults who I'm sure have done far worse telling kids/young men they need to apologize for things they said or wrote when they were legitimately little kids.
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I get that, but at the same time those kids should be taught right from wrong.

Kobe calls someone a "bleeping f^g" and yes he should apologize and handle any punishment the league sees fit. If we're going to scour the social media profiles of 13 and 14 year old's and tell them to apologize for things they said now that they are young men/adults then we've lost our way.
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I just can't see eye to eye on this. Kids should be taught to take ownership for what they say and do.

A 14 year old is not an 8 year old, or even a 12 year old.

You seriously think he needs to apologize for typing a rap lyric from one of the most popular songs that dropped a week before he made the tweet? Let's go after racists for being racists and not go after someone who is pretty clearly not racist and instead just a kid who recited a rap lyric. This type of stuff only detracts from the very really problem of racism.
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In large part I agree with your point, but I also think a good way to go after racism as an institution is to go after casual racism. And yes, a non-black person using that word – even in context – is casual racism, just as there was an example of casual homophobia in those tweets.



There aren't many more important lessons than this one IMO.
 
Matrim55 said:
I get that, but at the same time those kids should be taught right from wrong.


I just can't see eye to eye on this. Kids should be taught to take ownership for what they say and do.

A 14 year old is not an 8 year old, or even a 12 year old.


In large part I agree with your point, but I also think a good way to go after racism as an institution is to go after casual racism. And yes, a non-black person using that word – even in context – is casual racism, just as there was an example of casual homophobia in those tweets.



There aren't many more important lessons than this one IMO.
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Have their parents and teachers teach them a lesson and make them learn ownership. Life lessons from the media is such a crock of horsedookie, I can't stand the hypocrisy. You want to look back and go through what every 14 year old was writing and saying in the 90's and 2000's, you won't find too many that didn't make light of homosexuality, use the n^g^a lyric, and the B word.

I'm about the least tolerant person when it comes to racism. I took classes in African Studies and Race in America where I'm the only white kid in the class. I've been accused of being overly sensitive to race practically my whole life and this isn't any kind of racism. It's a kid playing organized basketball for the first time in his life and realizing he's really great at it. He wanted to drop the hottest lyric which applied to the game he's so good at.
 
The only thing better than following stars is destroying them..

This is not about things pc or what kids do that is stupid or the modality which they demonstrate it.

Ignore this stuff and the people exploiting it will need new targets to get a charge out of people. Good luck getting people to ignore this stuff.
 
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