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“We saw a lot of him last year, but to see him run the ball the way he has and do the things he has, a lot of hard work is going into it,” Jones-Drew said. “All the hard work he’s doing in practice is starting to show. We just have to wait and see how he does throughout the preseason. He’s pushing myself and Justin Forsett, and when you add Denard (Robinson) in there, it’s a great running mix.”
 

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I root for Todman so hard. I really feel that he got the shaft from Edsall and had Randy not known that he himself was leaving 10 minutes after the final team address after the Fiesta Bowl, I think he would have given Todman better advice than he did. 6th round pick? After playing hurt and carrying the team on his back (at least the offense) for most of the season? He deserved MUCH better.
 

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Edsall shafted Todman?

Todman's stock was going to be higher after a senior year running behind a line that wasn't built for the scheme they ran? He was better off carrying the ball 300 times and taking that much more out his legs and risking injury?

Where do crazy ideas like this come from? Todman would have been completely and totally insane to come back for his senior year. He could not play any better - he might end up having a good career but his measurables don't add up to a high round pick - what would another year of college changed?
 

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Edsall shafted Todman?

Todman's stock was going to be higher after a senior year running behind a line that wasn't built for the scheme they ran? He was better off carrying the ball 300 times and taking that much more out his legs and risking injury?

Where do crazy ideas like this come from? Todman would have been completely and totally insane to come back for his senior year. He could not play any better - he might end up having a good career but his measurables don't add up to a high round pick - what would another year of college changed?

Yep. Only way you could say Edsall "screwed" Todman was if he guaranteed he was a much higher draft pick based on feedback from his contacts in the pros. And I highly doubt Edsall would have used that language.

UConn would have been better off if Todman stayed. In all likelihood Todman would not have been better off if he had stayed an extra year.
 
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I root for Todman so hard. I really feel that he got the shaft from Edsall and had Randy not known that he himself was leaving 10 minutes after the final team address after the Fiesta Bowl, I think he would have given Todman better advice than he did. 6th round pick? After playing hurt and carrying the team on his back (at least the offense) for most of the season? He deserved MUCH better.


What bad advice do you think Coach Edsall gave him? You honestly believe he tried to sabatoge Todman's prospects?

Alot of players carry teams on their back and aren't drafted very high. Heck, there are several Heisman Trophy winners in that category.

Jordan was a fantastic runner. You can still see it in his limited opportunity in the pros. But in the nfl you have to do more than run well, especially if you are in competition for a # 3 slot. You need to be adept on specials (Jordan is not), and you need to be able to pass block (Jordan struggled in this area at UCONN not sure if he has improved as a pro.). That is what is going against him in the pros.

If he came back for his senior year, you think his draft stock would change that much? Scouts didn't see enough tape to make a judgment? He rushed for almost 1700 yards and was Big East Offensive player of the year his junior year. What would going back to school accomplish except increase risk for injury?
 
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I root for Todman so hard. I really feel that he got the shaft from Edsall and had Randy not known that he himself was leaving 10 minutes after the final team address after the Fiesta Bowl, I think he would have given Todman better advice than he did. 6th round pick? After playing hurt and carrying the team on his back (at least the offense) for most of the season? He deserved MUCH better.

Jordan Todman is a fine talent, but he should thank his lucky stars that he decided to play his college football with UCONN under Randy Edsall.
 
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Edsall was obviously more interested in himself than anyone on the team. Edsall gave Todman advice that he didn't follow. Hell of a role model.
 
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Edsall was obviously more interested in himself than anyone on the team. Edsall gave Todman advice that he didn't follow. Hell of a role model.

What are you talking about? And you have nothing to support your first statement. Quotes from his former players contradict your statement.

Edsall's exit was far from graceful, and he admits as much. But one poor choice does not define his tenure.

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What are you talking about? And you have nothing to support your first statement. Quotes from his former players contradict your statement.

Edsall's exit was far from graceful, and he admits as much. But one poor choice does not define his tenure.

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Yes it does not define his tenure by I personally (as someone who was constantly branded an apologista) doubt that I will ever find a way to forgive the manner in which he departed as it clearly demonstrated that he felt he was above all of the rules that he constantly preached others needed to follow. The Todman instance is case in point on this (he told Jordan that he owed it to his teammates to inform them before the Fiesta Bowl that it would be his last game as a Husky). Somehow Randy didn't think he owed his players the same courtesy.

I could well be wrong here by I fully believe (and likely always will) Randy wanted to be sure that his successor would not have an AA caliber running back to as part of a veteran team that was returning the bulk of its starters.
 

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Even if Edsall was trying to screw the next guy
A: it was the right move
B: it was advice - Todman could have done whatever he wanted.
 
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Even if Edsall was trying to screw the next guy
A: it was the right move
B: it was advice - Todman could have done whatever he wanted.
Yes it is the right move if you are not confident enough the next guy will outperforn you
 
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If I were Randy I would have said this. Your Oline is for the most part gone. The team is left with no D1 scholarship QB. I built no depth and the cupboard is bare. Leave now. You will be lucky if you gain 1,000 yards and you will have to be a free agent.

Randy told him to go go because he left the O a shambles.

I thought Randy was a good coach. As a man the way he left stunk pretty bad.
 
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Edsall leaving is a totally separate issue from Todman. Todman was gonna leave no matter what his stock wasnt gonna go any higher had he stayed his senior year. If your a rb and you have a chance to leave early you should go no matter where you will be drafted, look at the Caulley injury. A rb like Ahmad Bradshaw left a year early was a 7th round pick had he stayed around another year he may not have made it into the NFL given all his injuries.
 
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LOL. You guys love your conspiracy theories. It was the right move for Todman. Plain and simple.
I was referring to edsall screwing the next guy which i dont think was the intention of todman leaving You are right. Todman sold high he would not have done better.
Nothing wron with the way edsall left. Most coaches bail before the bowl games and i respect him for that.
Coaches should be off limits until the end of bowl season. There is no reason for the shuffle until then and it us a much needed rule
 
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Plain and simple. If Todman could have had Donald Brown type numbers his senior year he stays. He could not have, given what was left of the O.
 

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Plain and simple. If Todman could have had Donald Brown type numbers his senior year he stays. He could not have, given what was left of the O.

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We brought back three starters (Petrus, M Ryan & Masters) along with a guy who played reasonably significant minutes (Friend) the prior season. Hurd was a significant loss but the falloff in O-Line play (which was primarily due to change in philosophy) was not something that any reasonable person would have anticipated.

Sherman was a very significant loss but we did not exactly lose Johnny Unitas when Zach's eligibility ran out.

I'm not saying that Todman would have (or even should have) remained had RE not required him to do the honorable thing and inform the team that the Fiesta Bowl was going to be his last game at UConn. I do not believe however that anyone had any reason to believe that what was left of the offense was anything all that bad, in comparison to 2010 (until GDL got involved).
 
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I was referring to edsall screwing the next guy which i dont think was the intention of todman leaving You are right. Todman sold high he would not have done better.
Nothing wron with the way edsall left. Most coaches bail before the bowl games and i respect him for that.
Coaches should be off limits until the end of bowl season. There is no reason for the shuffle until then and it us a much needed rule

I actually think the honorable thing to do is leave right after the regular season before the bowl game. Much better to be looking for a coach in early Dec rather than early Jan. That one month makes a big difference in attracting candidates as well as recruiting. Hell if he quit after the USF game we probably would've hired Addazio.
 
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Nothing wron with the way edsall left. Most coaches bail before the bowl games and i respect him for that.
Coaches should be off limits until the end of bowl season. There is no reason for the shuffle until then and it us a much needed rule

Edsall's mind was not on the game the 2nd half. His mind was already in MD. Watch the game tape, he was in no way coaching the team, just standing there like an onlooker.
 
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I actually think the honorable thing to do is leave right after the regular season before the bowl game. Much better to be looking for a coach in early Dec rather than early Jan. That one month makes a big difference in attracting candidates as well as recruiting. Hell if he quit after the USF game we probably would've hired Addazio.
I disagree how do u think northern illinois And cincinnati felt when they were coachless in big bowl games. Not fair to the kids that worked hard. If they want to switch teams why cant it wait until january ?
 
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And most people's solution to the coaching problem is to hire a young gun that will have one foot out the door the minute he shows up.

Such a silly conversation. We got beat that day for a lot of reasons. Until I hear a player tell me that Edsall tanked the game I will assume otherwise.
 
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I disagree how do u think northern illinois And cincinnati felt when they were coachless in big bowl games. Not fair to the kids that worked hard. If they want to switch teams why cant it wait until january ?

I already gave you the 2 reasons why it can't wait until Jan. These bowl games are meaningless. And both NIU & Cincy had as much of a chance as we did winning our BCS games. Lombardi wasn't coaching any of those 3 teams to victory.
 
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