Match-ups, Comparisons, and Game Plans | The Boneyard

Match-ups, Comparisons, and Game Plans

Status
Not open for further replies.

Kibitzer

Sky Soldier
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
5,676
Reaction Score
24,714
Today we are fortunate to be able to read a masterful comparison ot Duke vs. UConn (by UConnCat on another thread) comparable to those we have been privy to by HuskyNan and DoggyDaddy, among others.

One unavoidable flaw in these posts is that a casual viewer of wcbb could mistakenly get the impression that there will be five games of one-on-one going on, which we know is not the case. Teams like UConn and Duke vary their defenses -- sometimes man-to-man, sometimes zone, sometimes a variation, plus lots of switching and "help" defense. Thus, the match-ups of players, position by position, are more like comparisons of players at each position.

Game plans by coaches are based on both the skills and flaws of individuals and teams.

Back on October 26, I addressed this on a post (#96351, thank you) because I noted a tendency of 'Yarders to focus on how UConn players would match up aainst opponents, often in a worrisome way. So I started that long-forgotten post, "Let's go over to the other side. . ." and consider the challenge faced by opposing coaches as they prepare to play UConn.

So, if I am Duke's Coach "P," what am I telling my players to watch out for?

"First, you have to break the full court press and get into your offense in the fore court in less than ten seconds. The less (than 20 seconds) time you have remaining, the greater chance you will get bad looks and, by logical extension, have more misses and more vulnerability to UConn's transition game.

"You must limit Dolson's touches when she is in the low post by denying entry passes (not a strong aspect of UConn's half-court offense). But once she gets the ball in the low post, double her immediately because she can overwhelm a lone defender there."

Coach P would surely go on to develop a defense that would limit penetration by Hartley or Hayes, describe how to match up on "D" if/when Stokes is on the court with Dolson, and to never leave KML open on the perimeter. Or Hayes. Or Hartley.

What's my point? Simple. the opposing coaches almost always have a greater challenge when drawing up a game plan than Geno does preparing for them.

Think about it. How would you prep your team to face UConn's stifling defense and the offensive firepower of KML, Hayes, Hartley, Dolson, et al. That makes them earn their pay.
 

VAMike23

The Virginian
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
8,512
Reaction Score
17,295
I would start out guarding Stef straight up with EW. Stef has her by a couple of inches, but EW is a force and should be able to make Stef work hard for her shots without the need to double. If Stef gets on a roll or if EW picks up early fouls, then the situation changes in our favor. But I would not start out doubling Stef because UCONN has too many weapons. The exception being that you can sometimes double off of Kelly, if she is not making herself a threat.

I might put my best perimeter defender on Tiff right now, and deny/shadow her all around the court as we did with the Ukrainian on Saturday, not helping off her at all, and switching as needed. For stretches in the 2nd half, the USF game was almost like 4-on-4 on their end, because had someone glued to her at all times, switching when necessary. The one time Kelly hedged off of her, they got a quick pass to her in the corner and she drained a 3, prompting Geno to go ballistic. Tiff is not used to this kind of treatment and if you can disrupt her by taking her out of the flow early, it might make her press and make some bad decisions when she is able to get her hands on the ball. Tiff is very quick and will back door you in a heartbeat, both on her own and via backscreens, so making this kind of denial D work would be a challenge, but Duke at home is a team that could give it a shot.

On offense I would go to EW early and often, in an attempt to draw fouls on Stef, get to the line and establish EW's presence in the game. UCONN is also not as strong as it has been in the past at containing dribble penetration, so I would tell Chelsea Gray to be very aggressive when she gets a matchup she likes and take it to the lane, looking to score or dump it down to EW. And/or work a lot of ball screens for Chelsea. Stef as a soph is not where Tina as a senior was with respect to backstopping penetration in the lane--nor should anyone expect her to be, of course, especially with EW roaming around to keep her honest.
 

arty155

Post Poster
Joined
Sep 15, 2011
Messages
705
Reaction Score
3,148
Today we are fortunate to be able to read a masterful comparison ot Duke vs. UConn (by UConnCat on another thread) comparable to those we have been privy to by HuskyNan and DoggyDaddy, among others.

Kib, & Mike, & UConnCat, & DD,
-Guys, as an enthusiastic reader (but still figuring out which end of the ball to aim at the basket)…
-First, the combined insight this season you’ve all been providing is just terrific. Appreciate DD’s leadership; also enjoy how whenever OldCoach, Nan, & Mike infrequently roll in – it seems right on target. Great comments by icebear Icebear, Meyers, Wonk, Milford, DaddyC, Tony, Eric, and… well, you know all the usual suspects - way too many to name I really want to thank here.
-But here is the pressing matter,… I will also always particularly be interested in any assessment or comments ‘Yarders offer regarding any upcoming opponent’s likelihood to deal successfully/unsuccessfully with our Husky press.
-I ’d back off right away if you more experienced guys feel ‘press-prognostication’ is simply far too dynamic (too many players and potential schemes?) for worthwhile conjecture. Hey, I understand Kib’s point above – things get very complicated when venturing beyond comparing one player to another.
- All I know is, this year’s Huskies are especially fun to watch. I believe Mike highlighted prior to pre-season UConn’s press was coming and going to be particularly fun to watch… and boy is it ever. Often like attack dogs – effectively ripping into opponents. Nice Husky. Nice Husky.
So, any insight – whenever ‘Yarders feel in an upcoming game our press will likely be… ineffective,… or a significant hindrance,… or even decisive… would always be appreciated – perhaps by others too.
Thanks again,
Arty
PS: If it’s all been implicit and gone over my head, please don’t hesitate to aim lower now and then. Thanks.
 

doggydaddy

Grampysorus Rex
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
6,008
Reaction Score
8,970
I would start out guarding Stef straight up with EW. Stef has her by a couple of inches, but EW is a force and should be able to make Stef work hard for her shots without the need to double. If Stef gets on a roll or if EW picks up early fouls, then the situation changes in our favor. But I would not start out doubling Stef because UCONN has too many weapons. The exception being that you can sometimes double off of Kelly, if she is not making herself a threat.

I might put my best perimeter defender on Tiff right now, and deny/shadow her all around the court as we did with the Ukrainian on Saturday, not helping off her at all, and switching as needed. For stretches in the 2nd half, the USF game was almost like 4-on-4 on their end, because had someone glued to her at all times, switching when necessary. The one time Kelly hedged off of her, they got a quick pass to her in the corner and she drained a 3, prompting Geno to go ballistic. Tiff is not used to this kind of treatment and if you can disrupt her by taking her out of the flow early, it might make her press and make some bad decisions when she is able to get her hands on the ball. Tiff is very quick and will back door you in a heartbeat, both on her own and via backscreens, so making this kind of denial D work would be a challenge, but Duke at home is a team that could give it a shot.

On offense I would go to EW early and often, in an attempt to draw fouls on Stef, get to the line and establish EW's presence in the game. UCONN is also not as strong as it has been in the past at containing dribble penetration, so I would tell Chelsea Gray to be very aggressive when she gets a matchup she likes and take it to the lane, looking to score or dump it down to EW. And/or work a lot of ball screens for Chelsea. Stef as a soph is not where Tina as a senior was with respect to backstopping penetration in the lane--nor should anyone expect her to be, of course, especially with EW roaming around to keep her honest.

And what should they do with KML and Hartley?
 

VAMike23

The Virginian
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
8,512
Reaction Score
17,295
And what should they do with KML and Hartley?

Dunno, maybe ask for their autograph...?

I do pick us to win, and I think either one or both of those two will do some real damage to the Dookies, which is why in another thread I said I don't think they should try zoning us very much. We have too many people who can find seams and otherwise exploit the zone. I just think from a "pick your poison" p.o.v., disrupting Tiff's game might pay bigger dividends given all she is doing for us lately.

Hope you're liking sunny Florida.
 

MilfordHusky

Voice of Reason
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
37,448
Reaction Score
127,821
Foul trouble and post play could be keys. If EW gets in early foul trouble, Duke gas no chance. If she gets 2 quick fouls on both Stef and Kiah, it could be a tough one for us.

I look for Tiffany, Bria, and Kaleena to stand out.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Online statistics

Members online
406
Guests online
2,234
Total visitors
2,640

Forum statistics

Threads
159,816
Messages
4,206,533
Members
10,076
Latest member
Mpjd2024


.
Top Bottom