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Message: [QUOTE="Glenn, post: 4072880, member: 3538"] I agree that it probably takes more than 10 games to remove the effects of prior years, owing to the paucity of good interconference games. That said, one other factor that you might be minimizing is the fact that the Massey algorithm includes margin of victory. I think in the Oregon case it "liked" the fact that Oregon walloped mediocre teams, such as USC by 20, and barely lost to good teams--like by 2 to Stanford. So, Massey saw some "good" wins. The other difficulty last year was the lack of interconference games which is the key to being able to rank teams across conferences. [/QUOTE]