Mark Blaudschun, Boston Globe: If L'ville leaves, basketball schools out the door

[Rumrunner]

First Prov Journal.

Now the Globe.

 

[noeynox]

Cool. Just leave the Big east name behind so we can try to build this into a decent all sports league.

In all seriousness, I can't believe the bball schools have not gotten sick of this sooner.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Cool. Just leave the Big east name behind so we can try to build this into a decent all sports league.

In all seriousness, I can't believe the bball schools have not gotten sick of this darn sooner.

Why do you want the name when almost none of the FB schools are in the east? The BCS bid isn't linked to the name as I understand it.

 

[MTHusky]

I believe that if a new conference is formed by the BB only schools, they have to wait a few years(might be only one) to get an automatic bid to March Madness

 

[HartbeatHusky]

At this point all I care about is being in a BCS league if at all possible. Time for them to go and let us patch together whatever we can if we can't go to a new conference.

 

[uc1974]

The name is glorified for BB, excoriated for FB. We need a new one, regardless. Leave it for the BB schools.

 

[The Funster]

If the basketball teams split, they'll be the next A-10

 

[Revrat]

If you are Louisville why would you go Big 12? WVU I understand becasue no matter what they will land. But the Cards are Big East, Big 12 or nothing. if the Cards go Big12 the Big East is done and if the Big12 folds, and I think it will, the Cards have no home other than the MAC\MWS\CUSA or whatever it is. They would have to have alot of faith that the Big 12 isnt going to implode.

 

[BlueMAB]

If you are Louisville why would you go Big 12? WVU I understand becasue no matter what they will land. But the Cards are Big East, Big 12 or nothing. if the Cards go Big12 the Big East is done and if the Big12 folds, and I think it will, the Cards have no home other than the MAC\MWS\CUSA or whatever it is. They would have to have alot of faith that the Big 12 isnt going to implode.

Why would the Big 12 fold when they can continue poaching Big East or CUSA teams we would take? If you are Louisville why would you stay in this house of cards? (no pun intended)

 

[Revrat]

If the true goal is 16 team conferences Texas and Oakie and a few others bail for SEC, PAC or Big10. I don even thing thats a question at this point. if not 16 then maybe it sticks around. The Big12 stayed together But I dont think that anyone is truly happy about it. I mean they all whored themselves to get out of it and had no takers at the current time.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

It's become apparent that the goal is not necessarily 16 for everyone, and the recent big 12 contract among the non mizzou schools is pretty binding and would royally screw over everyone who leaves. I don't see the big 12 folding anytime soon. The right move for UL would be to take their invite.

 

[BlueMAB]

If the goal was 16, and they whored themselves out, and nobody went to 16, then something isn't adding up.

Regardless of what happens, I think it's pretty obvious the Big 12 is at the very least, slightly more stable than the Big East. Nobody is leaving a BCS conference to join the Big East. But any Big East team would join virtually any other BCS conference if offered.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

It's become apparent that the goal is not necessarily 16 for everyone, and the recent big 12 contract among the non mizzou schools is pretty binding and would royally screw over everyone who leaves. I don't see the big 12 folding anytime soon. The right move for UL would be to take their invite.

The media lockup is through 2016. Then, if Texas and Oklahoma leave then, you are in a wasteland of a league. Not quite as simple as take it if you get it.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Well it's either take the Big 12 or stay in the Big East and risk being locked out of the BCS permanently unless the SEC decides it wants you.

 

[BlueMAB]

The media lockup is through 2016. Then, if Texas and Oklahoma leave then, you are in a wasteland of a league. Not quite as simple as take it if you get it.

The Big East's BCS bid is through 2013, and we are already in a wasteland of a league.

 

[IthacaMatt]

If you are Louisville why would you go Big 12? WVU I understand becasue no matter what they will land. But the Cards are Big East, Big 12 or nothing. if the Cards go Big12 the Big East is done and if the Big12 folds, and I think it will, the Cards have no home other than the MAC\MWS\CUSA or whatever it is. They would have to have alot of faith that the Big 12 isnt going to implode.

Big 12 has an anchor member in Texas. There are only so many national brands, and unfortunately the Big East has none of them. That makes them de facto more stable than the Big East / Conf USA.

 

[flyonthewall]

Having 16 teams in any conference (well other than the abortion a/k/a the BE) makes sense only if schools 15 and 16 add value as far as TV money. The number 16 gets thrown around a lot as having some magic, and yes 16 is easier to schedule, but unless 16 makes economic sense none of the real conferences will be going to 16 any time soon.

 

[SubbaBub]

Conferences going to 12 was about the extra revenue from a championship game. Going to 16 is about television inventory. Specifically, tier 3 inventory to fill time on conference sponsored networks. If you can add teams that can compete, then you have more attractive games for your network.

For example, if B12 adds Louisville, that means there are 12 additional B12 league games. Even if they end up in the bottom half of the league, there is one more conference game for the LHN. Similarly, if WVU vs. Texas ends up on ESPN as a Tier 1 game, then OU vs. Texas Tech ends up on the Tier 2 network, so now OSU vs Louisville is on the B12 regional network, which is better than say KSU/Baylor. or whatever teams you want to use.

Adding a top team is great, but not necessary to create higher TV revenues. You just can be Duke or Vandy. All of the BE teams would be at least mid-pack teams in the other conferences.

I thought this was pretty well reasoned:
http://www.businessinsider.com/conference-realignment-2011-10

 

[NEforceUConn]

The Big East's BCS bid is through 2013, and we are already in a wasteland of a league.

Its thru 2015 unholy one.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

The Big East's BCS bid is through 2013, and we are already in a wasteland of a league.

You get mad about my CAA post, but you post stuff like this?

 

[BlueMAB]

Its thru 2015 unholy one.

It's through the 2014 bowl season, which is the 2013 regular season.

 

[BlueMAB]

You get mad about my CAA post, but you post stuff like this?

Not mad, amused at your hypocrisy, and it was your CUSA post. How is it again that UConn is powerful enough to save the Big East but yet we couldn't get in CUSA? And if UConn is strong enough to save the big east, but too weak for the C-USA, then what does that say about YOUR opinion of the Big East?

 

[Stinger92860]

I call BS on Blaudschun. If the bball schools leave they become the next version of the A10. They leave only if we split. That is the only way.

 

[tzznandrew]

I call BS on Blaudschun. If the bball schools leave they become the next version of the A10. They leave only if we split. That is the only way.

I disagree, especially if they add Xavier, Butler, and a third school, like Dayton or George Mason, or something.

Villanova
Georgetown
Xavier
Butler
St. John's
Marquette
Providence
Seton Hall
DePaul
Random Team X

Is a damn good league, much deeper than the A-10 ever was.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

they'll bolt if ul or uconn or wvu leaves because the replacements will very likely be another poor bball team, when they can leave and add butler and/or xavier and be in a better league.