Louisville (self) imposes more sanctions on basketball team in wake of escort scandal (Forde)

[huskymedic]

Louisville imposes more sanctions on basketball team in wake of escort scandal

>>The school will announce Wednesday that it is stripping itself of two scholarships and two official visits in the coming years. The scholarship reductions, from the NCAA maximum of 13, will be one apiece for 2017-18 and 2018-19. The official visit reductions will be one apiece this year and in 2016-17.

Louisville will also reduce its recruiting days by 30 this year – missing 24 this month and the remaining six in July. That is an approximate 24 percent reduction in recruiting opportunities for the season.<<

 

[huskymedic]

CRAWFORD | Louisville to impose scholarship reductions, recruiting restrictions on men's basketball

 

[tykurez]

That's it?

 

[huskiesNhoos]

Schools should not be allowed to self impose punishment with the intent to mitigate NCAA punishment during an investigation

Defeats the whole purpose of having a regulatory function of the NCAA

 

[Fairfield_1st]

Now I see a Syracuse comparison. Initially I gave credit to Louisville for bowing out of the tourney in a year they clearly would have made it. But per that article they have a top 5 team next year and assumably should go further in the tourney with a shot at a NC. Better to miss this year than next, just like 'cuse did and just like UNCheat is doing, except in reverse. They played now and will take the penalty later, assuming the NCAA sees fit to levy one. Nobody should be allowed to self punish tourney involvement.

 

[huskymedic]

Statement from the Office of the President
ramseyulstatement.pdf

 

[Palatine]

And North Carolina is taking those two scholarships and awarding them to itself. Plus the one extra that the NCAA gave them for making the final four bringing their total to 17.

 

[Uconn77Duke74]

Was expecting to see: "All future strippers visiting campus must keep at least one article of clothing on during recruitment visits."

 

[Inyatkin]

Schools should be able to self impose all they want but the NCAA should give it no weight in their own punishment. The whole point of punishment is it's something you don't want, not something you pick and choose.

 

[CL82]

Trying to avoid show cause orders for Pitino and Jurich?

 

[businesslawyer]

Was expecting to see: "All future strippers visiting campus must keep at least one article of clothing on during recruitment visits."

See -- I'm about to show you why the world needs lawyers. They will all keep on baseball caps.

 

[prankster]

Was expecting to see: "All future strippers visiting campus must keep at least one article of clothing on during recruitment visits."

"For the purposes of this rule, "belly bracelets" shall be considered an article of clothing."

 

[Tenspro2002]

The NCAA laughed in the face of our self-imposed punishment, but will eagerly accept whatever these P5 programs suggest.

 

[freescooter]

The NCAA laughed in the face of our self-imposed punishment, but will eagerly accept whatever these P5 programs suggest.

Well Pitino says nothing happened so why shouldn't the NCAA accept this? I mean really would Rick lie?

 

[Uconn77Duke74]

The NCAA laughed in the face of our self-imposed punishment, but will eagerly accept whatever these P5 programs suggest.

The NCAA went so far as to laugh in the face of their own initial punishment against us and then decided to re-do it!

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Trying to avoid show cause orders for Pitino and Jurich?

The Louisville did this in two phases (post-season ban and then this) makes me think that the more the NCAA (and possible legal authorities) uncovers, the worse it is and Louisville be basically trying to make sacrifices to the NCAA gods. The question is if it will be enough? Afterall, they can't pull a UNC and throw a different team under the bus because 1) female strippers likley is of no interest to most of their women's teams and 2) it happened in the basketball dorm, which I doubt that male players from their 'lesser' sports are allowed to breath the rarefied, scented air from. I think Pitino is in serious trouble.

Also, between this, Pitino's prior affair, hiring a football coach (Bobby Petrino)with a log of baggage with respect to women, and whatever the heck Julie Hermann as doing there, I would think a competent lawyer could find ground for some serious Title IX issues there.

 

[CL82]

The Louisville did this in two phases (post-season ban and then this) makes me think that the more the NCAA (and possible legal authorities) uncovers, the worse it is and Louisville be basically trying to make sacrifices to the NCAA gods. The question is if it will be enough? Afterall, they can't pull a UNC and throw a different team under the bus because 1) female strippers likley is of no interest to most of their women's teams and 2) it happened in the basketball dorm, which I doubt that male players from their 'lesser' sports are allowed to breath the rarefied, scented air from. I think Pitino is in serious trouble.

Also, between this, Pitino's prior affair, hiring a football coach (Bobby Petrino)with a log of baggage with respect to women, and whatever the heck Julie Hermann as doing there, I would think a competent lawyer could find ground for some serious Title IX issues there.

I don't see the Title IX issue, but I'd be curious to hear your thoughts.

I think the end game is to throw Pitino under the bus. I think Pitino is well aware of this possibility.

 

[caw]

The Louisville did this in two phases (post-season ban and then this) makes me think that the more the NCAA (and possible legal authorities) uncovers, the worse it is and Louisville be basically trying to make sacrifices to the NCAA gods. The question is if it will be enough? Afterall, they can't pull a UNC and throw a different team under the bus because 1) female strippers likley is of no interest to most of their women's teams and 2) it happened in the basketball dorm, which I doubt that male players from their 'lesser' sports are allowed to breath the rarefied, scented air from. I think Pitino is in serious trouble.

Also, between this, Pitino's prior affair, hiring a football coach (Bobby Petrino)with a log of baggage with respect to women, and whatever the heck Julie Hermann as doing there, I would think a competent lawyer could find ground for some serious Title IX issues there.

Also, it seems pretty interesting to me that with this and the self impossed ban UL has pretty much admitted guilt. Unlike Cuse they can't play the "it happened so long ago it did not affect our championship banner card." I mean that was only four seasons ago. We all think it did not happen this year, and do they expect anyone to believe they started cheating after the championship?

I also think it's pretty hilarious they think what they self imposed is enough. It's less than Cuse got by a substantial margin.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

I don't see the Title IX issue, but I'd be curious to hear your thoughts.

I think the end game is to throw Pitino under the bus. I think Pitino is well aware of this possibility.

Hiring two coaches with s ex issues, having an AD who has been accused of s ex harassment at a prior job, on-campus prostitution, etc. can easily be seen as a ""hostile sexual environment" towards women. That's what Tennessee is dealing with regarding what did or did not happen with Peyton Manning. It's what Florida St settled out-of-court over what ever did actually happen with Jameis Winston to the tune of $950,000.

 

[formerlurker]

See -- I'm about to show you why the world needs lawyers. They will all keep on baseball caps.

And the NCAA's lawyers will argue baseball hats are an accessory, not an actual article of clothing. It will drag on for years in court with both lawyers billing thousands of hours.

 

[The Viking]

I also think it's pretty hilarious they think what they self imposed is enough. It's less than Cuse got by a substantial margin.

Syracuse bowed out of a March Madness they had a no guarantee of making.
Louisville would have had a great shot at 2nd weekend and a decent shot at Final Four.

Cuse was masterful. They kept their future together, no recruits fled, only one senior was the victim. Then they had the audacity to whine about their team's Boeheim-less stretch being held against them. The audacity.

 

[caw]

Syracuse bowed out of a March Madness they had a no guarantee of making.
Louisville would have had a great shot at 2nd weekend and a decent shot at Final Four.

Cuse was masterful. They kept their future together, no recruits fled, only one senior was the victim. Then they had the audacity to whine about their team's Boeheim-less stretch being held against them. The audacity.

True but still all told UL is trying to self impose less than Cuse got from a pure numbers standpoint. The merit of their respective seasons really are meaningless.

 

[businesslawyer]

And the NCAA's lawyers will argue baseball hats are an accessory, not an actual article of clothing. It will drag on for years in court with both lawyers billing thousands of hours.

So what's the down side?

 

[Deadrody]

This is hysterical. I don't know, so I'm asking honestly...

Is there any evidence whatsoever that self imposing sanctions early leads to less overall ?

Seems to me, to the extent the NCAA is screwed up, they're going to hand down the same sanctions, regardless. Maybe try not to intentionally antagonize the NCAA, but the self imposed sanctions game seems pointless to me.

 

[intlzncster]

Syracuse bowed out of a March Madness they had a no guarantee of making.
Louisville would have had a great shot at 2nd weekend and a decent shot at Final Four.

Cuse was masterful. They kept their future together, no recruits fled, only one senior was the victim. Then they had the audacity to whine about their team's Boeheim-less stretch being held against them. The audacity.

Did I mention that Mark Emmert has an MPA and a PhD from Syracuse? Just saying.