Lolo, Syracuse and Hillsman

[WestsideWaltz]

I found this video on another forum and feel it's very much worth viewing. Fitzmaurice gives her personal account of why 12 out of 15 girls transferred. Ironically, although a lot of posters speculated it had to do with sexual impropriety, that is never discussed, although Fitzmaurice notes that Ronnie Enoch was hired because he was a friend of Hillsman despite the fact that he was dismissed from his previous job for sexual harassment. I think it's pretty heavy stuff.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

Wow.

 

[Vowelguy]

Cliffs notes for those eho don’t want to wade thru 30 mins?

 

[CocoHusky]

Cliffs notes for those eho don’t want to wade thru 30 mins?

Toxic! Toxic! More Toxic! Abusive behavior by coaches with Q threatening to punch players in the face. Q was subject to extreme anger outbursts which he took time to hide from cameras by going into a weight room. There are two coaches on that staff that were retained after Q was fired. Vonn Read and Erica Morrow- I don't see how in God's name the administration allowed that to happen when they did nothing to stop this abuse.

 

[WestsideWaltz]

One thing in the video that stuck out was the seeming indifference of administration. At one point, the players were going over the allotted time at practice. When a player went to compliance about it, the officer went to Hillsman, they laughed about it and the player was punished.

Lolo's main problem was with a player she labeled a racist bully. It's not hard to guess who it was. She said that although the other players were very tight, two players caused great friction and tried to pit the players against each other. That one ringleader allegedly punched a softball player at a party and it was swept under the rug. Hillsman allegedly said that if they didn't like it, they could transfer and that's when 12 of the girls left.

 

[CocoHusky]

One thing in the video that stuck out was the seeming indifference of administration. At one point, the players were going over the allotted time at practice. When a player went to compliance about it, the officer went to Hillsman, they laughed about it and the player was punished.

Lolo's main problem was with a player she labeled a racist bully. It's not hard to guess who it was. She said that although the other players were very tight, two players caused great friction and tried to pit the players against each other. That one ringleader allegedly punched a softball player at a party and it was swept under the rug. Hillsman allegedly said that if they didn't like it, they could transfer and that's when 12 of the girls left.

It sounds very much like Pat Summit, Joe Paterno and Bobby Knight, in that Q had manipulated himself into a situation of believing that his program was bigger than the university and its administration.

 

[eyeroll]

I found this video on another forum and feel it's very much worth viewing. Fitzmaurice gives her personal account of why 12 out of 15 girls transferred. Ironically, although a lot of posters speculated it had to do with sexual impropriety, that is never discussed, although Fitzmaurice notes that Ronnie Enoch was hired because he was a friend of Hillsman despite the fact that he was dismissed from his previous job for sexual harassment. I think it's pretty heavy stuff.

Thank you for sharing this. I watched the whole thing and WOW. Obviously this guy is a POS and deserves every dirty detail out in the open. I'm also glad that the administration got called out. It amazes me how little conscience exists for some people that you could knowingly contribute to this.

 

[Adesmar123]

Cliffs notes for those eho don’t want to wade thru 30 mins?

It's also very very middle schoolish.

 

[Vowelguy]

It's also very very middle schoolish.

So are Cliffs notes.

 

[Adesmar123]

I never did figure out who Cliff was.

 

[Plebe]

Lolo's main problem was with a player she labeled a racist bully. It's not hard to guess who it was.

Why is it not hard? What were the clues given?

 

[Zanzman]

I never did figure out who Cliff was.

He’s a mailman from Boston

 

[eyeroll]

I never did figure out who Cliff was.

 

[WestsideWaltz]

Why is it not hard? What were the clues given?

The comments give it away.

 

[eyeroll]

Why is it not hard? What were the clues given?

At the time she mentioned two things: it was someone who had been around for 4 years, it was someone who played almost all the time. She said 40-minutes per game to make the point. I think it's fair to say the person was white too.

 

[cancontent]

Thank you for sharing this. I watched the whole thing and WOW. Obviously this guy is a POS and deserves every dirty detail out in the open. I'm also glad that the administration got called out. It amazes me how little conscience exists for some people that you could knowingly contribute to this.

Sadly this is more common than we want to believe. There are too many documented cases where issues like this were swept under the rug in various sports.

 

[eyeroll]

Sadly this is more common than we want to believe. There are too many documented cases where issues like this were swept under the rug in various sports.

Oh, absolutely. I don't even want to think about it how common it probably is.

 

[Vowelguy]

At the time she mentioned two things: it was someone who had been around for 4 years, it was someone who played almost all the time. She said 40-minutes per game to make the point. I think it's fair to say the person was white too.

If it’s not hard to say, then just say it.

 

[undersized]

If it’s not hard to say, then just say it.

The player in question is Tiana Mangakahia.

 

[cancontent]

Oh, absolutely. I don't even want to think about it how common it probably is.

I feel the same way, but unfortunately we need to keep ourselves aware.

Recently, in Quebec, 3 HS coaches were arrested for various charges that could date back well over 10 years (investigations are ongoing). The articles that have come out from former players who are now comfortable to speak out saddens me.

The challenge is making sure we pay attention but don't overreact to everything. How? No idea.

 

[my2cents]

All these situations have one thing in common. Other adults who witnessed this abuse and didn't say anything need to be held accountable too.

 

[CocoHusky]

Why is it not hard? What were the clues given?

She said the player averaged 40 minutes per game and had been on the team since she was a freshman and made racist remarks.

 

[JeannoCT]

This video makes me both angry and sad. Angry that these young women were groomed to accept the fact that they were being abused, and they had nowhere to turn. Administration makes a joke of it and covers it up. Sad that this happened to these women. I do hope they get together and sue the University and all the adults that allowed this to happen. Never liked Q, thought he was a phony and a blowhard. Didn't know he was an abuser too. Healing thoughts and prayers for these players.

 

[OviedoFLHusky]

I found this video on another forum and feel it's very much worth viewing. Fitzmaurice gives her personal account of why 12 out of 15 girls transferred. Ironically, although a lot of posters speculated it had to do with sexual impropriety, that is never discussed, although Fitzmaurice notes that Ronnie Enoch was hired because he was a friend of Hillsman despite the fact that he was dismissed from his previous job for sexual harassment. I think it's pretty heavy stuff.

Thank you so much for posting this video. I sincerely hope that those who were abused can get the proper counseling. They may well suffer from PTSD and not realize it, and not know how to cope.

As other posters have noted, sadly this happens all too often - and not just in this type of setting. I had a very similar experience at my last job. For 4 years I endured bullying, gaslighting, and mobbing (an actual term that means when co-workers gang up and tell lies to management about another, more skilled co-worker, to denigrate her and make themselves look better). I tried everything: from working harder to the point of burnout, to try to gain management's trust; to attempting to transfer to another department (which was a no-go; management didn't like me, but they didn't want to lose my work either); to looking elsewhere for another job. Nothing worked. And I ended up getting fired for "speaking truth to power" - which put the lie to the company's ethics policies of "do what's right" and "see something, say something."

My advice to anyone in a similar situation? Besides counseling for PTSD, invest in tiny hidden cameras and audio recorders to document the actual abuse. I wish I had done that. Otherwise, it's "you said, they said."

 

[LwrcasefaN]

I'm an SU Graduate Alum and this is disturbing and breaks my heart. Years before this meltdown I kept saying that something doesn't seem right at the program. I started to sense something off when Desire Elmore (5 star out of CT) committed and just slowly disappeared from playing and eventually left. She just never looked happy. Same for two other 5 stars...Engstler and Finklea. This certainly fills in the gaps and rumors.