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Message: [QUOTE="WBBTakeover, post: 4948676, member: 13257"] And you're wrong here. I don't dislike Harper, and I'm looking at her situation objectively. That said, I do believe that she's WCBB's version of being born with a silver spoon in her mouth. She's had better career opportunities than at least 80% of women's college basketball coaches, Kieger included. She simply has not done enough to warrant having another one, especially not so soon. The facts say that Kellie Harper has been fired from not one but two P5 jobs for failing to maintain certain program-based standards. She's experienced a dip in production at both P5 programs despite having access to the best players/athletes. At NC State, she took a program that was holding steady after a tragic loss and turned it into an ACC basement dweller in just four seasons. At Tennessee, she inherited talent from Holly but could not recruit HS talent. She took over a program (her alma mater, nonetheless) that was supposed to contend for SEC titles year in and year out and turned it into one that doesn't. She coached four WNBA first round picks at Tennessee and has zero SEC titles and zero Final Fours to show for it! Kieger took over two failing programs (one of them her alma mater and the other a train wreck in the B1G) and was able to establish upward trajectories at both. Yes, it's been a slow build at Penn State and no, her time there cannot be considered a success. But this year was a step in the right direction for a program that was in the toilet when she took over--and she's doing this while not being able to attract the kind of athletes she'd like to coach (the first round WNBA players that Kellie has been able to coach at Tennessee) to Central PA. Kieger might coach two WNBA players between her time at Marquette and Penn State (Hiedeman at Marquette and maybe Kapinus makes it in a couple of years). Kellie coached two first round picks just last year (Rickea and Jordan). This is not to suggest that Carolyn Kieger is better than Kellie Harper nor am I endorsing her for the Miami job (it should go to the best candidate PERIOD). I'm suggesting that they're not on as different levels as you make them out to be. Kellie's had more and better opportunities than Kieger--yet she's failed at them because she takes them in the wrong direction--downward. Kieger's one P5 opportunity to date has been a slow and ugly grind--but it's gone upward this year. This is my final post on the matter. [/QUOTE]

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