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“Coach [Jim] Calhoun was a tough coach to play for, but a great coach to play for. I was struggling, and Coach always believed in me. You know, he was always in my head. He got me mentally tough. He pushed me to the limit. When I thought I was working hard, he showed me that I wasn’t. He always told me that I wasn’t.
My freshman year, got to play with Kemba Walker, great point guard, and I learned a lot from him. So my whole time at UConn was a huge learning experience and a time for me to get tougher.”

It's like the first couple of weeks of a running program. It's tough, and it is good for you, but if you hang tough and stay with it, it gets easier and you are the better for it. I can't help but wonder what kind of college player Jeremy would have become if he stuck around. I'm not saying that he made the wrong decision. I just think that Calhoun could have done something pretty special with a player of his gifts. Good luck Jeremy. Thanks for your big role in the 2011 championship.
 
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It boggles the mind to see the Rockets fans and sportswriters at the Houston Chronicle site are so upset the Rockets ended up with Lamb, Royce White and Terence Jones. These three guys could conceivably become the best three players out of this draft (a longshot I know, but on ability alone it can happen). They wanted the Rockets to trade up into the first round. For what? Lillard? Ross? Waiters? Barnes?

Ridiculous. They had the best draft.
 

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Seriously what other team got two primary contributors from national champion teams?
 

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It boggles the mind to see the Rockets fans and sportswriters at the Houston Chronicle site are so upset the Rockets ended up with Lamb, Royce White and Terence Jones. These three guys could conceivably become the best three players out of this draft (a longshot I know, but on ability alone it can happen). They wanted the Rockets to trade up into the first round. For what? Lillard? Ross? Waiters? Barnes?

Ridiculous. They had the best draft.

The problem with the draft for the Rockets doesn't stem from the actual players they drafted rather than the players they didn't get (Howard) or already have (bevy of PFs).

They now have Terrence Jones (20), Royce White (21), Marcus Morris (22), Patrick Patterson (23), John Leuer (23), Chandler Parsons (23), John Brockman (25), Louis Scola (32) that play PF.

Scola might be able to swing to the center position. White/Parsons/Jones/Morris may be able to play some SF, but honestly they aren't pure 3's.

That makes 8 players on the roster that are 4's or 4's pretending to be 5's or 4's pretending to be 3's. That's why I would be pissed if I were a Rocket fan.

Lamb is a good pickup for them, but he does pretty much the same thing as Kevin Martin. They have an aging Camby as their only C and no true SF.
 
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Slight correction, Parsons is a SF, not a PF. As for Martin, there was talk that they might amnesty his contract, but that talk was in connection with them acquiring Howard via trade and then pursuing Deron Williams in free agency to pair with him so I don't know if they would do it without moves being made. I could see it happening if they retain Courtney Lee. Rid themselves of Martin's contract and have Lamb on his rookie deal and groom him as the SG of the future.
 

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Slight correction, Parsons is a SF, not a PF. As for Martin, there was talk that they might amnesty his contract, but that talk was in connection with them acquiring Howard via trade and then pursuing Deron Williams in free agency to pair with him so I don't know if they would do it without moves being made. I could see it happening if they retain Courtney Lee. Rid themselves of Martin's contract and have Lamb on his rookie deal and groom him as the SG of the future.

Parson's is a tweener. I don't think he did a great job defending the 3, he's a bit slow. He is a 3 offensively. I guess I would say he's a tweener that leans more to the 3 position.

I've heard the same thing about Martin. It will be interesting what they end up doing, but either way they have too many 4's, not enough 3's and 5's. They also have two PG's who could be gone (free agency/hate of coach). Lowry is a decent PG, but nothing amazing. Dragic had some nice games and could be good, but if they want to keep him, I think they may end up overpaying. Not a well constructed team at all.
 
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For me, that's just a list of guys at the end that are not going to contribute.

Terrence Jones (20), Royce White (21), Marcus Morris (22), Patrick Patterson (23)

These are the guys they have. But these are all mostly combo guys. At least two can be on the floor together at any given time. One might be a chip for the future. There is absolutely no shame in having at least 3 of these guys on the same team. They went for best player available. At the slots they were picking, they weren't going to find better talents.
 

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For me, that's just a list of guys at the end that are not going to contribute.

Terrence Jones (20), Royce White (21), Marcus Morris (22), Patrick Patterson (23)

These are the guys they have. But these are all mostly combo guys. At least two can be on the floor together at any given time. One might be a chip for the future. There is absolutely no shame in having at least 3 of these guys on the same team. They went for best player available. At the slots they were picking, they weren't going to find better talents.

Long term I agree, but they have way too many roster spots filled by 4's right now.
 
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When you are as far away from contention as the Rockets are right now, roster spots and depth charts are the last thing on your mind come draft time.

You pick guys who you think could be players in the future, and go from there. The Rockets did a really good job of that with all three picks last night.
 
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The problem with the draft for the Rockets doesn't stem from the actual players they drafted rather than the players they didn't get (Howard) or already have (bevy of PFs).

They now have Terrence Jones (20), Royce White (21), Marcus Morris (22), Patrick Patterson (23), John Leuer (23), Chandler Parsons (23), John Brockman (25), Louis Scola (32) that play PF.

Scola might be able to swing to the center position. White/Parsons/Jones/Morris may be able to play some SF, but honestly they aren't pure 3's.

That makes 8 players on the roster that are 4's or 4's pretending to be 5's or 4's pretending to be 3's. That's why I would be pissed if I were a Rocket fan.

Lamb is a good pickup for them, but he does pretty much the same thing as Kevin Martin. They have an aging Camby as their only C and no true SF.

But the Rockets are a lottery team, their primary focus right now should be stockpiling good, young players. Plus, there are rumors they want to trade for Dwight Howard, so obviously the more assets you have, the more likely it is that you can pull that off. Lamb, Terrence Jones, and Royce White are all extremely good value for where they were drafted. I don't think anybody expects them to become stars, but they could all be rotation players on contending teams.

If you want to call Orlando and offer three to four good, young players and maybe some draft picks, Orlando will at least have to listen. Then you have Dwight Howard and because you improved your depth in the draft, you have enough pieces left over to still contend. I like the approach the Rockets are taking here.
 
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For me, that's just a list of guys at the end that are not going to contribute.

Terrence Jones (20), Royce White (21), Marcus Morris (22), Patrick Patterson (23)

These are the guys they have. But these are all mostly combo guys. At least two can be on the floor together at any given time. One might be a chip for the future. There is absolutely no shame in having at least 3 of these guys on the same team. They went for best player available. At the slots they were picking, they weren't going to find better talents.
It isn't over yet for the Rockets. Look for them to trade for a big man.
 

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budinger got traded to the twolves for the 18th pick... i think lamb will score a lot he just has the body and most importantly that mid-range game... this year also showed he can play point as well... i think youll see him at the point a good amount also
 
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One thing Houston is really good at is finding guys that can play, especially guys that end up being better than projected. They nearly got into the playoffs in the West last year with a bunch of guys that no one could have expected to be real contributors to an NBA team. What held them back, and what will continue to hold them back, is that they just don't have that one guy, that superstar that they can lean on. Maybe they can find a way to get that guy in Howard, but even if they do, I imagine they will have to move him as he won't want to stay there.
 

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this year also showed he can play point as well... i think youll see him at the point a good amount also
Really? Pretty sure he averaged more TOs than assists last season.
 
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He showed that he could bring the ball up the court without getting it stolen.

That's a valuable skill set to have in the NBA, but by no means does it mean we'll ever see (or should see) him play the point.
 

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Really? Pretty sure he averaged more TOs than assists last season.
Yes really. He showed he could bring the ball up and start the offense. I'm not saying he is going to play more point than sg but if they need him I think he's able to
 

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I guess when I think of point guard I think of the facilitator of the offense, not just the guy who dribbles the ball up half the court.

I think you're forgetting a lot of times from this year when JL would start to make a move out of the perimeter, would get trapped and dribbleb the ball off himself out of bounds. He dribbles so low because his arms are so long and it actually caused him some trouble at times. So even just bringing the ball up under pressure is not necessarily something I'd be super confident in at this point.
 
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back to Jeremy with the Rockets, Courtney Lee is now an unrestricted free agent after the Rockets withdrew their qualifying offer and unlikely to return, opening more time for Jeremy.
 

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Jeremy may be dreaming of the good old days of having boat/napier at pg if the Knicks match Lin. Rockets have lost both Lowry and dragic and have no pg ATM.
 
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