KY scheduling called into question

[HuskyNan]

Sorry if this is a repeat...

According to coach Calipari, UK is no longer a “traditional program” because it is designed to lose most of its “one-and-done” players to the NBA each year. Kentucky will therefore only sign short term contracts with non-conference rivals, and will require that both games in ” home-home” series be played off campus. ... Kentucky has built its current basketball program entirely on the basis of professional prospects playing their required one-and-done year in college before entering the NBA. The program is no longer designed to provide students pursuing a college education the opportunity to compete, it is designed to train professional basketball players.

The Coalition of Intercollegiate Athletics feels that's turning the NCAA too far towards a professional model and away from an amateur one.

KY's scheduling tactics called into question

 

[Ricky1Moore]

I've said if before, I'll say it again... Calipari will ruin Kentucky. The program will pay the price for his modus operandi, he is scum.

The only sad part is that they got this championship out of it, because Anthony Davis is amazing, and no other team stepped up and showed the balls to beat him.

 

[upstater]

I thought that was a joke out of the Onion, I really did. But go ahead NCAA give them perfect APR scores.

 

[cohenzone]

The guy is a failed, frustrated wannabe NBA coach who is thrilled with making a university team into a minor league franchise.

 

[Vuce]

While I cant stand calipari hasn't Dook been doing this for about 20 years? They will play non conference games at MSG, United Center in Chicago, Maui, etc. They normally won't play non conference foes on campus.

 

[dsturdy5]

While I cant stand calipari hasn't Dook been doing this for about 20 years? They will play non conference games at MSG, United Center in Chicago, Maui, etc. They normally won't play non conference foes on campus.

The only OOC games on campus that I can think of for Duke are the forced ones like the ACC/Big10 challenge. I think you could even call the St John's game at MSG a road-game-with-benefits since it gets them a near automatic win in NYC.

 

[babysheep]

The Coalition of Intercollegiate Athletics feels that's turning the NCAA too far towards a professional model and away from an amateur one.

More like being too open about what the NCAA is to the public for the NCAA's liking.

 

[rw005]

While I cant stand calipari hasn't Dook been doing this for about 20 years? They will play non conference games at MSG, United Center in Chicago, Maui, etc. They normally won't play non conference foes on campus.

So does UNC and they still do it. What the heck are they so afraid of?

 

[Ts5034]

Yes that is some BS. I always wanted to see a Uconn/Duke series in the regular season like we had with UNC. Gampel would be electric...even the XL center would get a wild crowd. Another good thing about that would be having the opportunity to shut the "crazies" up with a nice blowout win at Cameron

 

[babysheep]

The guy is a failed, frustrated wannabe NBA coach who is thrilled with making a university team into a minor league franchise.

Can we please stop insulting Squid's alleged coaching skills? Dude just won a NC. Regardless of whether or not it ever gets vacated (I'm sure most of you would love nothing more), he still won. Just makes you look bitter and frustrated.

 

[HuskyBandDad]

Can we please stop insulting Squid's alleged coaching skills? Dude just won a NC. Regardless of whether or not it ever gets vacated (I'm sure most of you would love nothing more), he still won. Just makes you look bitter and frustrated.

I am bitter and frustrated because no matter how many of you guys explain the APR to me I do not know how we get screwed and KY does not when it seems like none of their players ever graduate. That is whats wrong with the APR.

 

[StongingtonBob]

I am bitter and frustrated because no matter how many of you guys explain the APR to me I do not know how we get screwed and KY does not when it seems like none of their players ever graduate. That is whats wrong with the APR.

You're half right, you are bitter. Which is all I see when look at all the threads regarding APR and players transferring because sanctions relating to that. I think the frustration comes from the belief that you are just being punished for guys leaving early for the NBA without taking into account that the school is responsible for them fulfilling an academic requirement. And you can stop your pissing and moaning about the fairness because the NCAA is not picking on you. The NCAA penalized a total of 103 schools for poor APRs. A total of five D1 basketball programs, including Uconn, will miss '13 post season because of APR. I guess your feelings of entitlement, because you're Uconn, no longer matters. And you would be bitter towards "the squid" whether you were punished or not because your coach decided to hate him 20 years ago.

 

[johnhuskies95]

You're half right, you are bitter. Which is all I see when look at all the threads regarding APR and players transferring because sanctions relating to that. I think the frustration comes from the belief that you are just being punished for guys leaving early for the NBA without taking into account that the school is responsible for them fulfilling an academic requirement. And you can stop your pissing and moaning about the fairness because the NCAA is not picking on you. The NCAA penalized a total of 103 schools for poor APRs. A total of five D1 basketball programs, including Uconn, will miss '13 post season because of APR. I guess your feelings of entitlement, because you're Uconn, no longer matters. And you would be bitter towards "the squid" whether you were punished or not because your coach decided to hate him 20 years ago.

This post literally makes no sense.

 

[HuskyBandDad]

You're half right, you are bitter. Which is all I see when look at all the threads regarding APR and players transferring because sanctions relating to that. I think the frustration comes from the belief that you are just being punished for guys leaving early for the NBA without taking into account that the school is responsible for them fulfilling an academic requirement. And you can stop your pissing and moaning about the fairness because the NCAA is not picking on you. The NCAA penalized a total of 103 schools for poor APRs. A total of five D1 basketball programs, including Uconn, will miss '13 post season because of APR. I guess your feelings of entitlement, because you're Uconn, no longer matters. And you would be bitter towards "the squid" whether you were punished or not because your coach decided to hate him 20 years ago.

Seriously ? KY has more players leaving for the NBA than Uconn the last few years. You really think all the KY players who left are in " good academic standing " ? No feeling of entitlement here. The problem is punishing the current players who were not here when the problems started. Punish the coach - fine $ the school - take away the money earned from playing in the tourny's. I am not bitter toward squid or any other coach - ever. The bottom line is do you think the NCAA is fair and consistent in all this ? No way.

 

[Huskymaniac]

Seriously ? KY has more players leaving for the NBA than Uconn the last few years. You really think all the KY players who left are in " good academic standing " ? No feeling of entitlement here. The problem is punishing the current players who were not here when the problems started. Punish the coach - fine $ the school - take away the money earned from playing in the tourny's. I am not bitter toward squid or any other coach - ever. The bottom line is do you think the NCAA is fair and consistent in all this ? No way.

Forget it. You are arguing with a turnip.

Because UK created a system to keep their players eligible long before the squid was there, he gets to reap the benefits of his players always leaving while "on track" to graduate. What they need to do to stay "on track" is a joke, of course, but this udumba$$ fan will never acknowledge that. Nor will he acknowledge the reality that UK never graduates its players now that they all leave early for the NBA. Even if these kids were taking Harvard courses, anyone that thinks the UK basketball program is academically relevant is an idiot. There is NO intention of graduating these kids...NONE. And they are NOT there to get any sort of education outside of what they learn about basketball. None of them are going to UK for the academics, NONE! The squid is making a complete and total joke of college athletics. He is running a minor league team on a college campus. He is recruiting ZERO players who have any chance of sticking around long enough to graduate.

While a lot of our players leave early to play basketball, and most of those players admittedly never graduate, we at least OCCASIONALLY have a kid or two that graduates. Ever hear of Emeka Okafor? He GRADUATED, in THREE YEARS, with HONORS, majoring in FINANCE! The reality is that most of the elite basketball teams recruit kids that are there for one thing only, basketball. Some kids that go to crappy mid-major teams like umess might actually have one eye on academics as they know their chances at making a living playing basketball is low. Of the elite teams, which, let's face it, are the only teams anyone really cares and talks about, the difference between UK and most of the others is that UK has a cute little unregulated system in place to keep their athletes alive academically. Their precious sports teams are all they have in their miserable lives and they will do whatever it takes to win. Anyone that thinks these kids are actually being educated is as dumb as a box of rocks. At UConn, like most other elite teams, we don't have fake correspondence courses or fake majors for our players. They take the same classes as everyone else. They get special support in the form of tutoring but, ultimately, they are responsible for staying eligible and "on track". What got Calhoun in trouble was that he recruited too many players that were too irresponsible. On top of that, the AD screwed up the support system for the athletes.

 

[StongingtonBob]

This post literally makes no sense.

Just what part of this doesn't make sense? You are very bitter about the ban and transfers and cry that the NCAA is picking on you.

 

[StongingtonBob]

Seriously ? KY has more players leaving for the NBA than Uconn the last few years. You really think all the KY players who left are in " good academic standing " ? No feeling of entitlement here. The problem is punishing the current players who were not here when the problems started. Punish the coach - fine $ the school - take away the money earned from playing in the tourny's. I am not bitter toward squid or any other coach - ever. The bottom line is do you think the NCAA is fair and consistent in all this ? No way.

Yeah seriously! Leaving early and leaving early in poor academic standing are 2 different things. Do you really think with the way Calipari recruits his APR is not under the microscope? Most here hate him but you can't deny the guy isn't stupid. The sanctions do not punish the current player, it punishes programs for failing the student-athlete. If current players are effected then maybe they should considered this when signing a LOI or they could do what the others did and transfer or declare. These players had choices but chose a program with a poor track record. Bottom line is that I see a a lot of this bitterness from fans that won't get to watch their Huskies in the Big Dance or BET disguised as sympathy for the players who won't get to play in March. So stop pointing fingers in other directions in attempt do draw attention away from Uconn. You are like a bunch on 10 year olds.

 

[caw]

Clothy, you do realize the standards for eligibility (not losing a point for APR purposes) as pertain to transfers and those leaving for the NBA are different, correct?

It is actually easier, not to lose a point, for the school if the player leaves for the NBA than via transfer. Thus the situation down at FIU (some Florida school at least).

That inequity should be fixed before anything. Either the same standard used for transfers should apply to those leaving for the NBA, or the standard used for transfers should be dropped.

Not that the above is the major reason UConn is missing the NCAAT next year, but it is just one thing that is extremely unfair across the NCAA landscape when it comes to APR.

 

[johnhuskies95]

Just what part of this doesn't make sense? You are very bitter about the ban and transfers and cry that the NCAA is picking on you.

No, you have no idea what you are talking about. You're making yourself look like an idiot. You're blinded by your hatred of a program and school that is substantially better than yours in every single conceivable way. Just accept it.

 

[StongingtonBob]

Good answer!!! The how bout explaining APR and all the shots taken Oriahki and finger pointing that's always gone on with Calipari

 

[specialisthusky]

Good answer!!! The how bout explaining APR and all the shots taken Oriahki and finger pointing that's always gone on with Calipari

 

[Deepelm]

Good answer!!! The how bout explaining APR and all the shots taken Oriahki and finger pointing that's always gone on with Calipari

Here is a better idea, F off, its a Uconn board, dont like what we say? Stay away then, real simple even for you.

 

[freescooter]

Sorry if this is a repeat...

According to coach Calipari, UK is no longer a “traditional program” because it is designed to lose most of its “one-and-done” players to the NBA each year. Kentucky will therefore only sign short term contracts with non-conference rivals, and will require that both games in ” home-home” series be played off campus. ... Kentucky has built its current basketball program entirely on the basis of professional prospects playing their required one-and-done year in college before entering the NBA. The program is no longer designed to provide students pursuing a college education the opportunity to compete, it is designed to train professional basketball players.

The Coalition of Intercollegiate Athletics feels that's turning the NCAA too far towards a professional model and away from an amateur one.

KY's scheduling tactics called into question

If he actually said this stuff then the NCAA should ban kentucky. they aren't even making a pretext of trying to provide an education...Disgusting really. Time for the NCAA to step into the whole college basketball scandal and tell the NBA to go screw itself. If a guy leaves early for the NBA, you lose a scholarship. Plain and simple. If 2 guys leave early you lose 2 scholarships, if 3 or more leave early, you lose their scholarships, plus 1 additional one, since you obvioulsy didn't even try to recruit students. the bulls#*t arguments about guys going to college "to learn their craft" is utter nonsense.As if that is a legitimate reason to go to college anyway... These guys, and I inlcude guys like Drummond too, do it only because they can't be drafted out of high school...If they can't get recruited because the coaches don't want to risk their scholarships going forward, maybe the NBA will suddenly decide that its D-league should be legitimate, or that lo-and-behold they can indeed draft high school kids again.

 

[StongingtonBob]

Here is a better idea, F off, its a Uconn board, dont like what we say? Stay away then, real simple even for you.

A Uconn board? Wow, I thought it was a Kentucky board with all that content about Calipari and the Wildcats. Thanks for the clarification and don't forget your meds tomorrow again!

 

[Huskymaniac]

When is this bat$hit crazy going to get banned? It is bad enough a uass fan is on a UConn board defending a coach that abandoned his team nearly 20 years ago but how up is it that we have a umess fan defending Oriakhi and his father on a UConn board?

Hey douchy, are you even aware that Alex AND his father made quite a few negative tweets about Calhoun and the program? So, yeah, he will get attacked on a UConn board! Idiot! And since we have recently played Kentucky and go up against Kentucky for recruits, yeah, I think this board is entitled to a few threads and posts about them. Now explain to us why there are just as many posts on a umess board about UConn and Calhoun? We don't play each other and we don't compete for the same recruits because you guys are several levels below us in the college basketball food chain. So why the lingering UConn obsession? Because Calhoun insulted uass 20 years ago in response to the squid being a ? No wonder you guys still worship him. You are all of the same ilk.