KY players leaving

[huskies20]

does anyone know how their APR is affected with no one graduating?

 

[TopDog18]

I believe graduation rate isn't a factor in determining a school's APR. If players leave early for the NBA, and they are in good academic standing, no points are deducted.

 

[specialisthusky]

graduation has no affect on the aPR. It is only measured in players remaining on a team and players remaining in good academic standing per semester.

 

[kibblesnbits]

Yup....and surely they are all attending class now. Prepping for the draft can wait when you have the opportunity to complete another semester at UK.

 

[specialisthusky]

Yup....and surely they are all attending class now. Prepping for the draft can wait when you have the opportunity to complete another semester at UK.

actually they are signing autographs for 30 bucks a head around Ky

http://www.floydcountytimes.com/vie...graphs-during-Hillbilly-Days?instance=popular

 

[HuskyBandDad]

I believe graduation rate isn't a factor in determining a school's APR. If players leave early for the NBA, and they are in good academic standing, no points are deducted.

How can you be in good academic standing if these kids do not finish class this semester ? Are they taking final exams ?? I hope so but doubt it.

 

[husky99]

Grad has not impact.. kids just have to keep the grades up... uconn player did not take finals or finish classes. Just have to be in good standing

 

[specialisthusky]

How can you be in good academic standing if these kids do not finish class this semester ? Are they taking final exams ?? I hope so but doubt it.

my take on this (purely speculation) it you look at everyone everyone Cal has brought in, none have made it past their second year. I think UK is loading up summer, fall, and winter courses and meeting the credit requirement without taking anything in the spring. They are able to do this because no players are getting into degree courses or thus far have any intention to get a degree, so do not have to worry about prereq classes either. I can't see a way that any one coming out of UK so far has stuck around for a spring semester and this is the only way I can rationalize how their APR score is so solid.

 

[HeGotGame]

If all 5 KY players end the year in good standing I will applaud them and as hard as it is for me to say Calaparri.

These kids are all guaranteed first round picks and will soon be millionaires and they still took the time to finish up the semester, when the likes of Edwards and Mandeldove were too dumb and/or lazy to finish up when they had 0 to fall back on.

 

[phillionaire]

They can finish in good standing because they took one class this semester, and it probably involved some sort of basket weaving.

 

[HuskyBandDad]

Grad has not impact.. kids just have to keep the grades up... uconn player did not take finals or finish classes. Just have to be in good standing

This is why the APR is so so stupid !! The NCAA could care less about kids " academic progress ". I can not totally defend Uconn on all of this but you can not tell me all other schools are following these rules.

 

[upstater]

How can you be in good academic standing if these kids do not finish class this semester ? Are they taking final exams ?? I hope so but doubt it.

You need to be eligible. Whatever the heck "good academic standing" means (and that is a weird phrase conjured up by a public relations hack) it boils down to this: Are you eligible for next semester?

In academia, this is counted in only one way: have you completed enough credits? So, you can take 3 summer coursers (at least 3 are mandatory for basketball players at UConn, but I'm not sure if those are mandatory for any other athletes) as well as one-week intersession courses between Fall and Spring semesters. If you take 3 in summer, say 3 courses in the fall, 2 intersession courses, you have enough credits then to carry over and be eligible for next fall. The only additional requirement is that you maintain your status as a student which means you MUST take 2 classes in the spring. BUT, if you've already met your credit requirements, it's possible for these courses to be half-semester courses that end in late March. Or, you can just withdraw from your 2 spring semester courses and leave, knowing that you have more than enough credits already built up to remain eligible. In other words, this is all very easy to game and fix. I have no doubt this is what Kentucky is doing.

 

[upstater]

my take on this (purely speculation) it you look at everyone everyone Cal has brought in, none have made it past their second year. I think UK is loading up summer, fall, and winter courses and meeting the credit requirement without taking anything in the spring. They are able to do this because no players are getting into degree courses or thus far have any intention to get a degree, so do not have to worry about prereq classes either. I can't see a way that any one coming out of UK so far has stuck around for a spring semester and this is the only way I can rationalize how their APR score is so solid.

You have to take at least 2 courses in the spring to maintain status as a student, but since you already have enough credits to remain eligible into the next year, you could presumably withdraw from courses and leave and still be in "good standing." This works for returning players as well. They could drop spring courses and make up the deficit in the summer.

 

[Inyatkin]

They can finish in good standing because they took one class this semester, and it probably involved some sort of basket weaving.

That Boba Fett thing is just mesmerizing.

 

[upstater]

This is why the APR is so so stupid !! The NCAA could care less about kids " academic progress ". I can not totally defend Uconn on all of this but you can not tell me all other schools are following these rules.

It's easy to follow the rules. They are not that strict, as long as you're willing make education less of a priority. Apparently, a great many schools in he USA are very willing to do this.

 

[upstater]

If all 5 KY players end the year in good standing I will applaud them and as hard as it is for me to say Calaparri.

These kids are all guaranteed first round picks and will soon be millionaires and they still took the time to finish up the semester, when the likes of Edwards and Mandeldove were too dumb and/or lazy to finish up when they had 0 to fall back on.

Where are you getting your information from? That they finished up their semesters? That Gavin Edwards was too dumb and/or lazy to finish up his schoolwork?

 

[HeGotGame]

I said IF they finish up their semesters.

It is been stated on this board maybe 20 times that Gavin Edwards quit school before exams his senior year. So he was either lazy or dumb(to think that is a smart choice) or both.

Further, you can simply look at the graduation list from that year and not see him on there.

 

[upstater]

I said IF they finish up their semesters.

It is been stated on this board maybe 20 times that Gavin Edwards quit school before exams his senior year. So he was either lazy or dumb(to think that is a smart choice) or both.

Further, you can simply look at the graduation list from that year and not see him on there.

The point is, graduation has nothing to do with APR. He took off for a pro contract: someone was paying him to leave.Why blast him for that? And you sort of assumed that the Kentucky players are somehow doing anything different than leaving mid-semester.

 

[phillionaire]

That Boba Fett thing is just mesmerizing.

thanks haha

 

[HeGotGame]

The point is, graduation has nothing to do with APR. He took off for a pro contract: someone was paying him to leave.Why blast him for that? And you sort of assumed that the Kentucky players are somehow doing anything different than leaving mid-semester.

I am aware graduation has nothing to do with it. Leaving in good standing does. The KY players finishing up the semester and getting above I believe a 2.6 has them leaving in good standing, when they have NBA careers beginning very soon. Good for them. Saying IF and WILL is not assuming, maybe it is to you, but you should probably look up what assuming means then.

I will absolutely blast Edwards for quitting school his senior year right before exams to go "prep" from a pro contract in Korea. Decisions like that has us in this mess. Edwards can do what he wants, it is his life, but I have my right to blast him for making that decision and hurting us. If you want to defend him that is fine, but then do not complain about the APR situation. But you also seem like the kinda guy who thinks everyone in Little League should get a trophy.

Calaparri said he is making sure that the players finish their semester. IF they do, that is great for them.

You see the Mandeldove interview? How he is doing without a degree.

 

[kibblesnbits]

Calipari's statement is a joke. If Terrance Jones has an all-day Thursday autograph session in Pikeville as a priority over being at school then where do you think workouts, team visits, and other draft related activities fall on his priority totem pole? I'll bet those guys could spend the rest of the spring without going within 100 miles of Lexington, KY and somehow they will miraculously still get qualifying grades at the end of the term.

 

[upstater]

I am aware graduation has nothing to do with it. Leaving in good standing does. The KY players finishing up the semester and getting above I believe a 2.6 has them leaving in good standing, when they have NBA careers beginning very soon.

All I'm saying is that the bolded parts are not in evidence. You don't need a 2.6 unless you are seeking a waiver for a transfer player. Te GPA doesn't apply to people going pro. As well, the criteria for APR does not require that players going pro finish up the semester. It only requires that they be eligible for next semester. And they can maintain elgibility without finishing up their spring courses.

I will absolutely blast Edwards for quitting school his senior year right before exams to go "prep" from a pro contract in Korea. Decisions like that has us in this mess. Edwards can do what he wants, it is his life, but I have my right to blast him for making that decision and hurting us. If you want to defend him that is fine, but then do not complain about the APR situation. But you also seem like the kinda guy who thinks everyone in Little League should get a trophy.

Calaparri said he is making sure that the players finish their semester. IF they do, that is great for them.

You've got no right whatsoever. It's his life, and people should make the decisions that impact their lives the best. It's very likely he is much better off for making that decision since he's still getting paid to play basketball while other people with BAs from his class are struggling to find jobs.

Where did Calipari say that?

Come again with the little league trophy? WHAT??!!

 

[upstater]

Calipari's statement is a joke. If Terrance Jones has an all-day Thursday autograph session in Pikeville as a priority over being at school then where do you think workouts, team visits, and other draft related activities fall on his priority totem pole? I'll bet those guys could spend the rest of the spring without going within 100 miles of Lexington, KY and somehow they will miraculously still get qualifying grades at the end of the term.

It could be that way, but I don't think they need qualifying grades to maintain eligibility. All they need is enough credits--they don't necessarily need to get them in the spring.

 

[Huskies4ever]

I will absolutely blast Edwards for quitting school his senior year right before exams to go "prep" from a pro contract in Korea. Decisions like that has us in this mess. Edwards can do what he wants, it is his life, but I have my right to blast him for making that decision and hurting us. If you want to defend him that is fine, but then do not complain about the APR situation. But you also seem like the kinda guy who thinks everyone in Little League should get a trophy.

Blame the system then. What's the saying? "Don't hate the player, hate the game." Edwards made a decission he felt was right for him. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Dann]

bottom line is when it came time to report apr #'s a couple years ago a bunch of schools reported what ever number they wanted becuase the ncaa doesn't look unless it has a reason to. so schools all gave themselves passing #'s year after year even if they had issues. wehen we handed in our #'s JH knew his time here was limited at that point and he decided to leave a mark on this school becuase of his relationship with ME and his non rlationship with JC. He reported our real #'s and screwed us. then it was only a matter of time for him to go.