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Message: [QUOTE="caw, post: 2978764, member: 563"] But Gavin and Wane both started as seniors. Hard to tell how good either would have been as freshmen or sophomore starters especially in the BE as it was. Didn’t see a ton of PT based on who they were behind and neither was ready until later. Carlton would probably look as good as either in the same role they had as Freshmen/Sophomores. Only true way to tell is by letting time pass and seeing if he can progress further. One has to admit he has made strides between last year and this year. Although that basically means he has gone from being meh against all competition to being decent to good against bad competition. [/QUOTE]