KO Working his August Magic Again?

[Chief00]

There is another week.

 

[Brochacho]

Wouldn't mind it.

 

[Huskies2324]

>:/ ???

 

[Chief00]

OK - Timing was off by a day or two. Result was what was expected.

 

[alexd]

up next...September magic!!!!

 

[Chief00]

Always can use scorers - but I am a Clyde fan - and would love landing a Big. I would love to see KO recruiting and developing guards and Clyde Bigs.
But of course that won't happen. So the NCAA gave us credit for not giving Clyde a second chance??? I can't believe we fell in that trap.

 

[RuffRuff]

Not in the practice of rumor milling, but thought worth bringing up. This coming from a rather level headed friend who has worked on campus in the AD since late 90's. Thoughts of some are that Calhoun is going to wait till last minute to retire before this season starts, leaving the AD with no choice but to go with KO. This given there would just be no time to go into a full fledged search at that point. Apparently KO has really been the only one seen on campus with recruits.

 

[Yonick]

Not in the practice of rumor milling, but thought worth bringing up. This coming from a rather level headed friend who has worked on campus in the AD since late 90's. Thoughts of some are that Calhoun is going to wait till last minute to retire before this season starts, leaving the AD with no choice but to go with KO. This given there would just be no time to go into a full fledged search at that point. Apparently KO has really been the only one seen on campus with recruits.

I'm sorry, but if Calhoun does this last minute retirement thing just to get Ollie as HC, then he isn't acting in the best interests of UConn.
Manual's job is to hire coaches as needed. For Calhoun to force Manual's hand under tight circumstances would be quite unfair to everybody involved within the program.

 

[UConnSwag11]

I'm sorry, but if Calhoun does this last minute retirement thing just to get Ollie as HC, then he isn't acting in the best interests of UConn.
Manual's job is to hire coaches as needed. For Calhoun to force Manual's hand under tight circumstances would be quite unfair to everybody involved within the program.

not if everyone wants ollie especially the recruits... if he gets the job he should get a 6 year contract so he can get the recruits he wants and implement a system that can be adjusted and seen nationally.... he needs more then 4 to get recruits and the system he wants

 

[BLUEDOGHOUSE]

Not in the practice of rumor milling, but thought worth bringing up. This coming from a rather level headed friend who has worked on campus in the AD since late 90's. Thoughts of some are that Calhoun is going to wait till last minute to retire before this season starts, leaving the AD with no choice but to go with KO. This given there would just be no time to go into a full fledged search at that point. Apparently KO has really been the only one seen on campus with recruits.

RuffRuff

I think that certainly was the thought leading into August. Calhoun has to be gauging this recruiting class and using that as a barometer for his decision. I think this is a 50/50 bet. MY $ is on his return BUT I'm not betting the house bro!

 

[BLUEDOGHOUSE]

not if everyone wants ollie especially the recruits... if he gets the job he should get a 6 year contract so he can get the recruits he wants and implement a system that can be adjusted and seen nationally.... he needs more then 4 to get recruits and the system he wants

Really? OK! Why not an 8 year gig or maybe 10? Why stop at a mere 6 for Kevin?

In all seriousness if you can come to a rational conclusion that KO can be a great fundraiser, recruiter, academic coordinator, public figure, budget director, television and radio personality, alumni glad hander or whatever other hat the Prez or AD want him to wear then yes a six year initial K is very warranted. Coaches spend less than 15% of their time actually coaching on the court. It is pure speculation on that 15% for KO. I do think he has great potential though. He will be perceived positively by some alumni and the public.

Sure in theory a support system is supposed to be in place but we all saw how the likes of Marielle vanGelder perform on the job thus mitigating in all fairness some of the finger pointing at Calhoun. At UConn it is never safe to delegate evidenced by this upcoming seasons ban. Tight compliance is a prerequisite and the NCAA will not back off.

What is the Ollie "system"? An answer to that question would help lay a foundation for his prospects as a head coach.

I would like to see Calhoun affirmatively and ethically state his position BUT the law is on his side. As a matter of law a promise to tender personal services will not be specifically enforced by an affirmative decree. We have seen this over and over so it really comes down to an ethical standard with college coaches in general. I wish the courts ruled differently on this front but courts will never force a person to engage in activity against his/her will regardless of contractual obligation to peform. So neither the university or the court can require a coach to work even if contractually bound to do so. The contracts are not fair and balanced per se.

For the above reasons I am hesitant to engage in these long term deals with an unproven commodity.

 

[Waquoit]

OK - Timing was off by a day or two. Result was what was expected.

Is getting a guy not ranked in the Top 100 what passes for magic these days?

 

[UConnSwag11]

Really? OK! Why not an 8 year gig or maybe 10? Why stop at a mere 6 for Kevin?

In all seriousness if you can come to a rational conclusion that KO can be a great fundraiser, recruiter, academic coordinator, public figure, budget director, television and radio personality, alumni glad hander or whatever other hat the Prez or AD want him to wear then yes a six year initial K is very warranted. Coaches spend less than 15% of their time actually coaching on the court. It is pure speculation on that 15% for KO. I do think he has great potential though. He will be perceived positively by some alumni and the public.

Sure in theory a support system is supposed to be in place but we all saw how the likes of Marielle vanGelder perform on the job thus mitigating in all fairness some of the finger pointing at Calhoun. At UConn it is never safe to delegate evidenced by this upcoming seasons ban. Tight compliance is a prerequisite and the NCAA will not back off.

What is the Ollie "system"? An answer to that question would help lay a foundation for his prospects as a head coach.

I would like to see Calhoun affirmatively and ethically state his position BUT the law is on his side. As a matter of law a promise to tender personal services will not be specifically enforced by an affirmative decree. We have seen this over and over so it really comes down to an ethical standard with college coaches in general. I wish the courts ruled differently on this front but courts will never force a person to engage in activity against his/her will regardless of contractual obligation to peform. So neither the university or the court can require a coach to work even if contractually bound to do so. The contracts are not fair and balanced per se.

For the above reasons I am hesitant to engage in these long term deals with an unproven commodity.

what im saying really is ollie or whoever comes in should be given the opportunity to let them recruit the kids they want and such... you have to give someone more than 3 years to lay the groundwork with the recruits and such, 6 might be much, if you understand what im trying to get at, cant really put it together

 

[BLUEDOGHOUSE]

what im saying really is ollie or whoever comes in should be given the opportunity to let them recruit the kids they want and such... you have to give someone more than 3 years to lay the groundwork with the recruits and such, 6 might be much, if you understand what im trying to get at, cant really put it together

I'm not anti KO. Just want to look at the totality of the circumstances and act prudently. Life is just 1 big poker game in my opinion. Good luck...

 

[huskiesnyc]

Is getting a guy not ranked in the Top 100 what passes for magic these days?

So are you saying you judge recruits purely off what fat boys at ESPN think? I'll take Jim Calhoun and former NBA PG Kevin Ollie's thoughts. We are back up to 13 scholarships and worst case TS is a Beverly

 

[3uconn]

So are you saying you judge recruits purely off what fat boys at ESPN think? I'll take Jim Calhoun and former NBA PG Kevin Ollie's thoughts. We are back up to 13 scholarships and worst case TS is a Beverly

Remember "August Magic" culminates the ENTIRE month. We got a top 100 recruit in Kentan Facey and a quality 3 or 4 year player to solidify the backcourt. He did this when nobody knows if Calhoun will return for this year nevermind the rest of his contract. On top of that it seems that Ollie has taken over our recruiting. It seems he is alone in recruiting most if not all of our main targets. He really is working his "August Magic!"

 

[huskiesnyc]

Remember "August Magic" culminates the ENTIRE month. We got a top 100 recruit in Kentan Facey and a quality 3 or 4 year player to solidify the backcourt. He did this when nobody knows if Calhoun will return for this year nevermind the rest of his contract. On top of that it seems that Ollie has taken over our recruiting. It seems he is alone in recruiting most if not all of our main targets. He really is working his "August Magic!"

Good point. It proves that recruits are buying into the program not just the head coach..these kids want to play for the huskies regardless of who the coach is

 

[Huskies4ever]

Good point. It proves that recruits are buying into the program not just the head coach..these kids want to play for the huskies regardless of who the coach is

Can you imagine being Terrence Samuel, not a top 100 recruit, and 3 - time National Champion UConn comes a - knockin'? The coaching staff knows who they want and some of these guys grew up UConn fans.

 

[upstater]

So are you saying you judge recruits purely off what fat boys at ESPN think? I'll take Jim Calhoun and former NBA PG Kevin Ollie's thoughts. We are back up to 13 scholarships and worst case TS is a Beverly

Really now. People forget Emeka Okafor and Jeremy Lamb way way too easily.

 

[johnhuskies95]

So are you saying you judge recruits purely off what fat boys at ESPN think? I'll take Jim Calhoun and former NBA PG Kevin Ollie's thoughts. We are back up to 13 scholarships and worst case TS is a Beverly

No. Worst case is he's a Darius Smith who transfers out after 1 year and is an 0-2 on the APR.

 

[caw]

No. Worst case is he's a Darius Smith who transfers out after 1 year and is an 0-2 on the APR.

I believe Samuel has fairly good grades, at least coming in.

 

[huskiesnyc]

No. Worst case is he's a Darius Smith who transfers out after 1 year and is an 0-2 on the APR.

In order for that to happen he would have to transfer to a juco. Slim chance of that happening

 

[Ts5034]

Not in the practice of rumor milling, but thought worth bringing up. This coming from a rather level headed friend who has worked on campus in the AD since late 90's. Thoughts of some are that Calhoun is going to wait till last minute to retire before this season starts, leaving the AD with no choice but to go with KO. This given there would just be no time to go into a full fledged search at that point. Apparently KO has really been the only one seen on campus with recruits.

Why would Manuel have no choice to hire KO? If Calhoun were to retire at the last minute, Manuel can can hire anyone as the interim head coach and conduct a national search when the season is over. Technically, Blaney would be the one to step in since hes the associate head coach but i think George Blaney's career at UConn ends the same day Jim Calhoun retires. Since there is no NCAA tournament, Manuel wouldnt be under any pressure to hire somebody because there are no expectations for this year. I think Calhoun knows this so i would be shocked if he actually walked away like that.

 

[johnhuskies95]

In order for that to happen he would have to transfer to a juco. Slim chance of that happening

I'm not really sure what your point is. Wouldn't that (hypothetically) happen after he's at UConn?

 

[huskiesnyc]

I'm not really sure what your point is. Wouldn't that (hypothetically) happen after he's at UConn?

Just saying that Darius Smith cost us APR points because he left in poor standing, and transferred to a jucco.