KML on UConn's all-time scoring list

[DaddyChoc]

was 3rd after Maya and Tina... wow, that's a heck of a feat (until Stewie took over)

I miss KML

 

[Gus Mahler]

was 3rd after Maya and Tina... wow, that's a heck of a feat (until Stewie took over)
I miss KML

Yes, especially given that she missed 13 games over her last two years.

 

[DaddyChoc]

true... forgot about that

 

[Jimbo]

I agree that this was a big accomplishment by KML, and I think most people last year were too caught up in the 3-point record to notice how far she had climbed up the school scoring list.

It's interesting to me that KML ended up tied for third (now fourth) with Sales, another player who was cheated out of several games due to injury. Heaven knows how high those two would be on the scoring list had they stayed healthy.

 

[Zorro]

Yes, especially given that she missed 13 games over her last two years.

Which undoubtedly cost her 200-250 points. Still, she did ok. She might have passed Tina but could never have caught Maya. Fourth best scorer in UConn history ain't chopped liver.

 

[MilfordHusky]

When K arrived, I told Eric that she likely would finish either 2nd or 3rd in career scoring. She tied for 3rd and might have gotten to 2nd without the injuries and illness. I was confident that K could and would put the ball in the hoop.

 

[UcMiami]

So this thread got me wondering because the 1990s WCBB schedules were typically about 4 games shorter than the current ones, so players like Lobo and Bascom did their damage in fewer games and one of the reasons Geno gives for 'the basket' was the limited minutes Sales played in most of her games because the score was so lopsided. There are now 9 members of the 2000 point club - below are their stats including points per minute.
1. Maya Moore - 3036 pts. in 154 games and 4683 minutes - .648 points per minute
2. Tina Charles - 2346 pts. in 152 games and 3869 minutes - .606
3. Breanna S. - 2182 pts. in 125 games and 3492 minutes - .625
4. Kaleena ML - 2178 pts. in 142 games and 4129 minutes - .527
4. Nykesha S. - 2178 pts. in 137 games and 3511 minutes - .620
6. K. Bascom - 2177 pts. in 120 games and 3456 minutes - .630
7. Diana T. - 2156 pts. in 144 games and 4218 minutes - .511
8. K. Wolters - 2141 pts. in 137 games and 3144 minutes - .681
9. Rebecca L. - 2133 pts. in 126 games and 3572 minutes - .597

So on a per minute basis Wolters is #1 followed by Moore, Bascom and Stewart
On a points per game basis Moore leads at 19.71 followed by Bascom at 18.14 and Stewart now at 17.46 (she has just passed Lobo this year who is at 16.92 and could climb past Bascom.) KML is #8 and DT is #9
On a minutes per game basis Moore leads at 31.58, the only one to average more than 30 minutes per game - followed by DT at 29.29 and KML at 29.08 Bascom at 28.80, Lobo at 28.35, Stewart at 27.94, then Sales* at 25.63, Charles at 25.45, and trailed by Wolters at 22.94 (can we say conditioning?! Moving those big bodies takes a lot of energy!)

So while KML definitely lost some games, she didn't exactly get cheated on her minutes.

Also note that Geno's rationale for Sales' basket isn't quite as clear cut as she had already played more games and more minutes than Bascom to set the record, though fewer minutes per game.

*NB. Sales games is inflated by 1 (the basket!) so should really be 25.81 minutes per game.

[Can you say a slow Saturday night! I'm bored! ]

 

[Gus Mahler]

When K arrived, I told Eric that she likely would finish either 2nd or 3rd in career scoring. She tied for 3rd and might have gotten to 2nd without the injuries and illness. I was confident that K could and would put the ball in the hoop.

Come this spring let me know your call on the Preakness, will ya?

 

[Gus Mahler]

So this thread got me wondering because the 1990s WCBB schedules were typically about 4 games shorter than the current ones, so players like Lobo and Bascom did their damage in fewer games and one of the reasons Geno gives for 'the basket' was the limited minutes Sales played in most of her games because the score was so lopsided. There are now 9 members of the 2000 point club - below are their stats including points per minute.
1. Maya Moore - 3036 pts. in 154 games and 4683 minutes - .648 points per minute
2. Tina Charles - 2346 pts. in 152 games and 3869 minutes - .606
3. Breanna S. - 2182 pts. in 125 games and 3492 minutes - .625
4. Kaleena ML - 2178 pts. in 142 games and 4129 minutes - .527
4. Nykesha S. - 2178 pts. in 137 games and 3511 minutes - .620
6. K. Bascom - 2177 pts. in 120 games and 3456 minutes - .630
7. Diana T. - 2156 pts. in 144 games and 4218 minutes - .511
8. K. Wolters - 2141 pts. in 137 games and 3144 minutes - .681
9. Rebecca L. - 2133 pts. in 126 games and 3572 minutes - .597

So on a per minute basis Wolters is #1 followed by Moore, Bascom and Stewart
On a points per game basis Moore leads at 19.71 followed by Bascom at 18.14 and Stewart now at 17.46 (she has just passed Lobo this year who is at 16.92 and could climb past Bascom.) KML is #8 and DT is #9
On a minutes per game basis Moore leads at 31.58, the only one to average more than 30 minutes per game - followed by DT at 29.29 and KML at 29.08 Bascom at 28.80, Lobo at 28.35, Stewart at 27.94, then Sales* at 25.63, Charles at 25.45, and trailed by Wolters at 22.94 (can we say conditioning?! Moving those big bodies takes a lot of energy!)

So while KML definitely lost some games, she didn't exactly get cheated on her minutes.

Also note that Geno's rationale for Sales' basket isn't quite as clear cut as she had already played more games and more minutes than Bascom to set the record, though fewer minutes per game.

*NB. Sales games is inflated by 1 (the basket!) so should really be 25.81 minutes per game.

[Can you say a slow Saturday night! I'm bored! ]

So UC, should we infer from your analysis that KML was in good condition?

Seriously, I didn't realize Geno had cited the minutes thing as a rationale for "the basket." Seems pretty weak in light of the games played differential.

One thing I hope we can all agree on is that those old-timers (Bascom, Wolters, Lobo) acquited themselves pretty well.

 

[UcMiami]

So UC, should we infer from your analysis that KML was in good condition? YES! (But she did walk off the court instead of run once or twice! )

Seriously, I didn't realize Geno had cited the minutes thing as a rationale for "the basket." Seems pretty weak in light of the games played differential. What he meant was that if he had let her play four more minutes in one game over her 136 games before the injury, she would have broken the record, and at 25.8 minutes a game she ended up playing fewer minutes per game than any of the non-center 2000 point scorers at Uconn.

One thing I hope we can all agree on is that those old-timers (Bascom, Wolters, Lobo) acquited themselves pretty well.

Yes they did, as did a number of others who didn't reach the 2000 point plateau but feature in the record books on per-game stats.

[And Nykesha has one of the more secure records out on her own - her Steals total of 447 is currently 28% greater than second place, not unlike Maya's points record (29%) - Moriah likely will move into second place on steals, but still not be in the same zip code, the same with Stewart and Maya's points.]

 

[Gus Mahler]

Seriously, I didn't realize Geno had cited the minutes thing as a rationale for "the basket." Seems pretty weak in light of the games played differential. What he meant was that if he had let her play four more minutes in one game over her 136 games before the injury, she would have broken the record, and at 25.8 minutes a game she ended up playing fewer minutes per game than any of the non-center 2000 point scorers at Uconn.

Really? He said that? Awlbedarned.

 

[DaddyChoc]

I think Maya may have played against the best comp... DT and Sales also during the (Lady Vols battles)

 

[alexrgct]

Anyone else remember this thread from last season, when we tracked her three-pointers? I'll always love the Mt Rushmore players like Diana, Maya, and Stewie, but KML, and the thread I referenced, will always have a special place in my heart.

 

[ucbart]

If Stewie keeps up her 22PPG scoring pace, for what could be another 28 games, she would finish at about 2,800 points. To score more points at UCONN than you did in high school, is excellence personified. I don't however, think she will continue to average that many points until the AAC and NCAA tournament as she just won't play enough minutes, IMO.

 

[DaddyChoc]

 

[MilfordHusky]

Come this spring let me know your call on the Preakness, will ya?

I just thought Kaleena was an easy call. She was a top 10 HS player as a soph, a top 3 player her junior year, and the top player as a senior. The Lewis Launch was everything it was said to be.

 

[MilfordHusky]

So this thread got me wondering because the 1990s WCBB schedules were typically about 4 games shorter than the current ones, so players like Lobo and Bascom did their damage in fewer games and one of the reasons Geno gives for 'the basket' was the limited minutes Sales played in most of her games because the score was so lopsided. There are now 9 members of the 2000 point club - below are their stats including points per minute.
1. Maya Moore - 3036 pts. in 154 games and 4683 minutes - .648 points per minute
2. Tina Charles - 2346 pts. in 152 games and 3869 minutes - .606
3. Breanna S. - 2182 pts. in 125 games and 3492 minutes - .625
4. Kaleena ML - 2178 pts. in 142 games and 4129 minutes - .527
4. Nykesha S. - 2178 pts. in 137 games and 3511 minutes - .620
6. K. Bascom - 2177 pts. in 120 games and 3456 minutes - .630
7. Diana T. - 2156 pts. in 144 games and 4218 minutes - .511
8. K. Wolters - 2141 pts. in 137 games and 3144 minutes - .681
9. Rebecca L. - 2133 pts. in 126 games and 3572 minutes - .597

So on a per minute basis Wolters is #1 followed by Moore, Bascom and Stewart
On a points per game basis Moore leads at 19.71 followed by Bascom at 18.14 and Stewart now at 17.46 (she has just passed Lobo this year who is at 16.92 and could climb past Bascom.) KML is #8 and DT is #9
On a minutes per game basis Moore leads at 31.58, the only one to average more than 30 minutes per game - followed by DT at 29.29 and KML at 29.08 Bascom at 28.80, Lobo at 28.35, Stewart at 27.94, then Sales* at 25.63, Charles at 25.45, and trailed by Wolters at 22.94 (can we say conditioning?! Moving those big bodies takes a lot of energy!)

So while KML definitely lost some games, she didn't exactly get cheated on her minutes.

Also note that Geno's rationale for Sales' basket isn't quite as clear cut as she had already played more games and more minutes than Bascom to set the record, though fewer minutes per game.

*NB. Sales games is inflated by 1 (the basket!) so should really be 25.81 minutes per game.

[Can you say a slow Saturday night! I'm bored! ]

One take from this is that Maya was an Iron Woman. She played, whether she was sick or hurt. And she scored at a prolific per-minute rate as well.

When Kaleena was a frosh, she didn't start, but Geno had trouble taking her out of the games. He said good things happened when she was on the floor. They really did.

 

[DaddyChoc]

KML was a genius on the court at UConn

 

[ricky]

KML was a genuine run stopper. Just when it appeared the opposition was taking control, KML kills them with that patented and extremely accurate 50 foot shot.

 

[UcMiami]

Some thoughts on various comments:
1. Hard to really rank the competition these players faced - statistically the best teams Uconn has faced during any of these years are probably ND (undefeated entering the NC game), TN (39-0) and Baylor (40-0.) Eye test-wise the TN teams of the late nineties, the Baylor teams with Griner and Sims, and the ND teams of the last 5 years. Comparatively Bascom's teams were underdogs in more games than any of the others and were the weakest from a national perspective, followed by the first three years for Lobo and the last two for Diana. Breanna has probably had the most talented teams through her four years.

2. Moore and Charles are the only two to have shared NPOY in the same year which made for a very dominant team. Lobo and Wolters played some of their years with two other players who became NPOYs (Jen and each other), Nykesha played with three NPOY (Kara, Rebecca, and Jen), KML with two (Moore and Breanna), DT played with one (Sue), Breanna and Bascom played with none (unless Moriah splits with Breanna this year which I think unlikely.)

It is also interesting to look at a few other stats for these players:
1. DT (#1) and Moore (#6) are the only two who rank in the top 10 in assists. (Breanna will not reach that level.)

2. Nykesha (#1) and Moore (#3) are the only two who rank in the top 10 in steals. (Breanna might reach around #15)

3. Rebecca (#1), Kara (#2), Breanna (#4), Charles (#5), and Moore (#7) all rank in the top ten in blocks. Diana surprisingly ranks #11, but a long way back in raw numbers. (The first five all have over 300, Moore at #7 is 100 blocks behind Tina, and DT at #11 is another 56 back of Moore.)

4. Tina, Maya, and Rebecca are #1-3 in rebounds, Breanna, Kara, and Kerry are #7-9. (The order for rebounds per game changes to Rebecca #1, Tina #3, and Maya #6 with Kerry at #10.

5. Kara (#2) and Tina (3) are the only two in the top ten in shooting percentage. (Post players)

6. KML (#2) Maya (#6) Kerry (#8) and Diana (#9) are in the top 10 in three point percentage.

 

[Jimbo]

Some thoughts on various comments:
2. Moore and Charles are the only two to have shared NPOY in the same year which made for a very dominant team. Lobo and Wolters played some of their years with two other players who became NPOYs (Jen and each other), Nykesha played with three NPOY (Kara, Rebecca, and Jen), KML with two (Moore and Breanna), DT played with one (Sue), Breanna and Bascom played with none (unless Moriah splits with Breanna this year which I think unlikely.)

Awesome post. One tiny, tiny correction to this part of it: KML didn't play with Maya (though she did inherit her uniform number).