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Message: [QUOTE="BlueMAB, post: 3718072, member: 920"] If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. "NIT Final Fours" are a "thing" now? Okay, if you must consider them important, NC State has 4 of those as well, one more than Seton Hall. NC State is 17-13 in the NIT, Seton Hall is 8-18. NC State is 34-25 in the NCAA, Seton Hall is 16-13. NC State has: 2x as many national titles (including NIT) 2x as many NCAAT appearances 4x as many conference season titles 6x as many conference tourney titles 2x as many Final Fours (including NIT) won more games 1,731 - 1,537 higher overall winning percentage .632 - .583 2x as many wins in the NIT 2x as many wins in the NCAA tourney The only way Seton Hall even looks comparable, is if you cherry pick stats as you've done. It's not close. Can we put this to bed now? [/QUOTE]