Kevin Ollie ranked best tourney coach

[James]

by sports-reference

http://www.sports-reference.com/blog/2016/03/who-is-the-best-march-madness-coach-in-the-ncaa/

 

[Matrim55]

I can offer a single like to the person who's willing to calculate Calhoun's #s by this metric.

Also, here's a similar 538 article from last year:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/...ach-in-modern-ncaa-tournament-history-by-far/

 

[JakeTheDog]

JC would bump Boeheim off the list with .1521 cp% and 89 total points. I'm on mobile and did this quick so I may be wrong.

23 NCAAT appearances-23 points

13 Sweet Sixteens-26 points

4 Final Fours- 16 points

Add the 26 points for the 3 championships(8, 8, and 10 based on the authors criteria). 91 tourney points total with 6 wins vs higher seeds and 7 losses to lower seeds for a net total of 89 points. I expected JC to be higher but he had the disadvantage of consistently having us ranked as a 1 or 2 seed.

 

[formerlurker]

JC would bump Boeheim off the list with .1453 cp% and 85 total points. I'm on mobile and did this quick so I may be wrong

23 NCAAT appearances-23 points

13 Sweet Sixteens-26 points

3 Final Fours- 12 points

Add the 26 points for the 3 championships(8, 8, and 10 based on the authors criteria). 87 tourney points total with 6 wins vs higher seeds and 7 losses to lower seeds for a net total of 85 points. I expected JC to be higher but he had the disadvantage of consistently having us ranked as a 1 or 2 seed.

I suck at science. How many points for being 4 for 4 in National Championship Games for JC and KO combined?

 

[JakeTheDog]

I suck at science. How many points for being 4 for 4 in National Championship Games for JC and KO combined?

7774 points ahead of second place.

 

[tcf15]

I can offer a single like to the person who's willing to calculate Calhoun's #s by this metric.

Also, here's a similar 538 article from last year:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/...ach-in-modern-ncaa-tournament-history-by-far/

Fine, god dammit. Took a look at UConn and Northeastern.

NCAAs: 23 (23 points)
S16s: 13 (26 points)
F4s: 4 (16 points)
NC: 3 (9 points)
Seeds during championship year: 1; 2; 3 (6 points)

Wins as a lower seed: 7 (14 points)

1981: 11 over 6
1982: 11 over 6
1991: 11 over 6
1992: 9 over 8
2003: 5 over 4
2004: 2 over 1
2011: 3 over 2
​

Losses as a higher seed: 7 (-14 points)

1990: as a 1 lost to a 3
1994: as a 2 lost to a 3
1996: as a 1 lost to a 5
2005: as a 2 lost to a 10
2006: as a 1 lost to an 11
2008: as a 4 lost to a 13
2009: as a 1 lost to a 2​

Career coach points: 23+26+16+9+6+14-14 = 92
CP%: 92/(40 years coaching * 15) = .1533

If we have to take out 1996 because of the violations, the coach points changes to 91 (-1 NCAA, -2 S16, but +2 because it removes a loss to a lower seed) and the CP% drops to .1516.

Looking at the list, appears that Calhoun would be at 10 based on CP%, but would be 3rd in coach points (behind K at 135 and Izzo at 95).

 

[JakeTheDog]

Fine, god dammit. Took a look at UConn and Northeastern.

NCAAs: 23 (23 points)
S16s: 13 (26 points)
F4s: 4 (16 points)
NC: 3 (9 points)
Seeds during championship year: 1; 2; 3 (6 points)

Wins as a lower seed: 7 (14 points)

1981: 11 over 6
1982: 11 over 6
1991: 11 over 6
1992: 9 over 8
2003: 5 over 4
2004: 2 over 1
2011: 3 over 2
​

Losses as a higher seed: 7 (-14 points)

1990: as a 1 lost to a 3
1994: as a 2 lost to a 3
1996: as a 1 lost to a 5
2005: as a 2 lost to a 10
2006: as a 1 lost to an 11
2008: as a 4 lost to a 13
2009: as a 1 lost to a 2​

Career coach points: 23+26+16+9+6+14-14 = 92
CP%: 92/(40 years coaching * 15) = .1533

If we have to take out 1996 because of the violations, the coach points changes to 91 (-1 NCAA, -2 S16, but +2 because it removes a loss to a lower seed) and the CP% drops to .1516.

Looking at the list, appears that Calhoun would be at 10 based on CP%, but would be 3rd in coach points (behind K at 135 and Izzo at 95).

This is great I knew I missed some things. I had our seeds as 1, 1, and 2 for the championship runs and missed an upset.

 

[Matrim55]

JC would bump Boeheim off the list...

Fine, god dammit...

Look at that... you both earned a like!

Also, shouldn't we start a HuskyWikipedia at some point? I'm just randomly bringing this up here, definitely not aiming this suggestion at @tcf15 because I suspect he's crazy enough to start one. Nope. Not doing that at all!

 

[tcf15]

Look at that... you both earned a like!

Also, shouldn't we start a HuskyWikipedia at some point? I'm just randomly bringing this up here, definitely not aiming this suggestion at @tcf15 because I suspect he's crazy enough to start one. Nope. Not doing that at all!

I'm gonna pass on that one lol

 

[Matrim55]

I'm gonna pass on that one lol

Mmm hmm. We'll see...

 

[Kitaman]

Fine, god dammit. Took a look at UConn and Northeastern.

NCAAs: 23 (23 points)
S16s: 13 (26 points)
F4s: 4 (16 points)
NC: 3 (9 points)
Seeds during championship year: 1; 2; 3 (6 points)

Wins as a lower seed: 7 (14 points)

1981: 11 over 6
1982: 11 over 6
1991: 11 over 6
1992: 9 over 8
2003: 5 over 4
2004: 2 over 1
2011: 3 over 2
​

Losses as a higher seed: 7 (-14 points)

1990: as a 1 lost to a 3
1994: as a 2 lost to a 3
1996: as a 1 lost to a 5
2005: as a 2 lost to a 10
2006: as a 1 lost to an 11
2008: as a 4 lost to a 13
2009: as a 1 lost to a 2​

Career coach points: 23+26+16+9+6+14-14 = 92
CP%: 92/(40 years coaching * 15) = .1533

If we have to take out 1996 because of the violations, the coach points changes to 91 (-1 NCAA, -2 S16, but +2 because it removes a loss to a lower seed) and the CP% drops to .1516.

Looking at the list, appears that Calhoun would be at 10 based on CP%, but would be 3rd in coach points (behind K at 135 and Izzo at 95).

Impressive as usual. tcf please post a pic of yourself, I'm really starting to think you're a bot.

 

[tcf15]

Impressive as usual. tcf please post a pic of yourself, I'm really starting to think you're a bot.

For proof, I messed up the original calculation. I don't know why, but I gave 3 points for each NC when it shoukd've been 7.

So that would put coaching points at 104 and CP% at .17.

 

[tykurez]

Impressive as usual. tcf please post a pic of yourself, I'm really starting to think you're a bot.

 

[tykurez]

Tom Izzo is amazing. Michigan State has been to the NCAA tournament each year he's been the head coach - 19 straight years. A model of consistency.

That said - I'd still take UConn's prior 19 years over that. I know there's a consistency vs. results debate, but I'd rather sprinkle in a few misses for some championships.

 

[CTBasketball]

Izzo's like that guy who always brings a chick home from a bar, but falls asleep upon contact with his bed.

I'll take the championships over seasons and seasons of S16's and E8's.

 

[gtcam]

Im no whizz at statistical stuff
But I fail to see how Few and Marshall aren't on this list but the Picker is.
Based on Steven's success at Butler I would have thought he would be #2
Overall, I really don't see much usefulness in this type of ranking BUT KO is #1!!!!

 

[imno1]

I'm so disappointed in the boneyard. It's been a week since our season ended and no Ollie to the NBA rumors. That must mean he's gone right?

 

[jibsey]

Tom Izzo is amazing. Michigan State has been to the NCAA tournament each year he's been the head coach - 19 straight years. A model of consistency.

That said - I'd still take UConn's prior 19 years over that. I know there's a consistency vs. results debate, but I'd rather sprinkle in a few misses for some championships.

Tom Izzo is a crybaby. Do you see KO weeping over a loss? Izzo has a huge pool of state and inner city talent to draw from and a big time university and conference doesn't hurt him. KO's job is way tougher.

 

[jibsey]

Tom Izzo is amazing. Michigan State has been to the NCAA tournament each year he's been the head coach - 19 straight years. A model of consistency.

That said - I'd still take UConn's prior 19 years over that. I know there's a consistency vs. results debate, but I'd rather sprinkle in a few misses for some championships.

Tom Izzo is a crybaby. Do you see KO weeping over a loss? Izzo has a huge pool of state and inner city talent to draw from and a big time university and conference doesn't hurt him. KO's job is way tougher.