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Message: [QUOTE="DefenseBB, post: 2991456, member: 7492"] This is not a knock on Charlie’s perspective but let me offer another view: Collegiate coaching requires 3 skills-#1 player ability/talent (recruiting), #2 ability to improve player skills through practice (teaching/coaching) and #3 actual game management when playing an opponent (game coaching). All top coaches say #1 is getting talent, #2 is improving the skill set of the players then #3 game coaching. You can almost always get 20+ wins with #1 but will be lucky to get 20+ wins only #2 or #3 every OTHER year, let alone every year. So for all of Holly’s faults, she is meeting the #1 Criteria and is getting 25+ wins. Look at JP McCallie, Hatchell, C Vivian Stringer or Doug Bruno and tell me who won more regularly? I LOVE knocking Holly’s lack of developing and game coaching, mostly at the VolNation expense, however she does win at least 25 games a year in what until this year has been a top two conference which is extremely hard to do. , [/QUOTE]