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Message: [QUOTE="jonson, post: 4256249, member: 6034"] Wow! Where did that come from? I guess you must think you are the only Oregon fan who appreciates what Rueck has done at Oregon State. I think the key issue for Oregon fans is determining the appropriate level of expectations for a program that doesn't exactly have a stellar history and also does not have a lot of basketball talent living nearby. Another way of putting this is to ask if one can reasonably expect that there will ever be another Oregon team as good as--or close to as good as--the 2019-20 team that gave UCONN its worst loss at Gampel in program history, beat Stanford 3 times by around 70 points total, and had, according to a 538 article, one of the 7 most efficient offenses in WBB history. I think the realistic answer is "probably not," even if I hope otherwise. So--how does one rate this year? A disappointment, surely, and there are likely a lot of reasons for that, including misjudgments/mishandling on the part of the coaching staff. In another post, you give this year's performance a B- or C. That seems entirely appropriate to me, since I believe that this team should have played better (and more consistent) ball throughout the season and made the sweet 16 in the tournament. But I also think Graves's record earns him a little more patience on the part of Oregon fans. [/QUOTE]