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Message: [QUOTE="Figurehead, post: 4255452, member: 9631"] I think at 10.85 million over 9 years base salary Graves should not be immune from criticism. I could look for the link of the you tube video where Graves expects Prince to be the PAC 12 POY. I guess I am just more into let the play on the court do all the talking than the pre ordained entitlement take, bling and fancy uniforms. It is a nice sell to the fans but at some point it gets old. And I will stand behind the idea that the Oregon program is bigger than Graves. Just as in softball many fans said Coach White was the program. Coach Lombardi is doing well now. I just think in this day an age the buck stops with the coach. He is no saint. [/QUOTE]