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Message: [QUOTE="bigknight3, post: 4011407, member: 5837"] Def haven't watched either player as extensively as you but I came away from Ty Rodgers video thinking he'd have a defined roll and could see him coming in with a focus on being a lockdown defender. And he has the handle and plus athletic ability to get to the rim and finish. He can shoot (based on the one video I saw) but he's not a known shooter. Karaban is skilled offensively at all 3 levels and is an above average shooter (or would you call him elite?), But you do have any concerns with his athleticism? Is he a tweener? Not enough athletic or the lateral agility to play SF against high majors, but not tall/strong enough to match up against a PF. is he shoehorned in as a stretch 4 against smaller lineups, but he would hold up is the opposing team but a true PF in? Asking your opinion. Felt like Rodgers could def be a Hurley guy, disruptive on defense and athletic in transition. Thanks. [/QUOTE]