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Message: [QUOTE="Bama fan, post: 4004219, member: 7757"] I must agree that the Spanish Civil War gives the 18th a poor legacy. And the passing of Petrarch, with the whole humanism thing and the Renaissance, is another (pardon the pun) nail in the coffin. But I submit that July 18, 1976 offers more than a little redemption (again maintaining the death oeuvre) in that Nadia Comaneci scored her perfect 10 that day. I love me some humanism, though that has been greatly challenged lately. Especially the thing with people are inherently good being pushed beyond its stress limits. But I contend that [B]perfect[/B] is pretty darn impressive and sorry, not sorry, but Petrarch loses that contest. ;) [/QUOTE]