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Message: [QUOTE="alohachris, post: 3322477, member: 10025"] Wait until they find out exactly how much money Wiseman & his teammates really have made from all the "boosters," side deals & hustlers. It will come out. It'll make the Michigan fab five's haul look like peanuts. That $11,500 for Wiseman's family moving expenses is nothing. Of course it was a drop in the bucket of his total haul. And, his parents certainly never complained or took the high road - the parents of would-be stars rarely do & are even less interested in knowing the rules. Nobody wins here. Especially college basketball fans. I grew up playing in NYC. Longtime ago, I was a Div. I & European player & I've been a real fan since the 50's (I even remember the point shaving scandals of 1950 & 60.) Now, I don't take top-level college basketball seriously anymore. It's a minor league now, in a major money straight-jacket. Totally corrupt. And everyone is to blame for it. The way some posters talk about the NCAA & allowing market forces to control the situation, you know that now everyone is complicit in how far down college basketball has strayed. Heck, many believe that there should be no rules & that players must be paid (beyond the free $250K college education they receive) & shouldn't even have to go to class anymore or be qualified to go to class - any class. Pick up the check at the trainers' office or at the new Rec Center. What did the star recruit get on his SAT's? BBQ sauce. Rules just get in the way of everyone (players, their families, coaches, colleges, networks, AAU scumbags, shoe companies, fans) making their money, right. Nobody values the free education anymore. Everyone wants to get paid. So, what we have now are no rules with lotsa BS charades & shady characters when a few get caught. Wait til the "agents" start "helping" the players - mostly themselves - get likeness deals. I hate seeing the game I love destroyed! This Wiseman case is just the tip of it. Of course the NCAA is being hypocritical. It follows the money too. They don't go after the pillar institutions of any sport. That really sucks. Bill Self, Sean Miller, Roy Williams, Mike Krzyzewski, John Calipari, the exposed Rick Pitino (his first job was bagman for Hawaii's fab five - not on his resume'!) & the hundreds of coaches like them should all be kicked out of the college game. Cheaters all! And wait til it hits the fan for CCSU's Donyell Marshall down the line. But the college presidents & fans would all holler. They're gods on campus. Rich dad's - through assistant coaches & boosters - for their stars. For me, when they let UNC slide after 20 years of documented cheating in many sports, I could no longer believe that any star hoops or football player is not either getting big money or having his schoolwork completely done for him. Both are true along with big paydays at every major contender. Even occasionally at UConn. C'mon, they don't go to class. Jimmy had to fudge the rules to get many studs into the school over the years. That's true everywhere. Memphis has long been considered a "bandit school" - long before Calipari & Rose, long before their first great paid players Larry's Finch & Keenan went up against Walton & UCLA, & long before ex-coach Captain Kirk, known as "The Bagman," was paying his Memphis State stars & getting their folks jobs & houses in the 60's, before he was banned from the sport. Memphis has always been on the NCAA's radar. Penny Hardaway should have known that with his school's history, his coaching tenure at Memphis would be highly scrutinized. But today's top HS recruits like Wiseman cost a lot of money to attend your school. So Penny lost his shine & cheated, the full extent of which we'll soon find out. He was only using the kid anyway, like most coaches. When 'one & done' is over, hopefully this will change. There are many bandit schools - too many to name. I mean, what is Auburn coach Bruce Pearl doing on any basketball sideline with his history of abuses at several schools? Buying players on his way to 20-win seasons for any sell out, greedy college that's in need. He shoulda been banned too. Every year there's another group of Wiseman's. But we do need some rules & we do need some ethical organization to enforce them equally & swiftly. Shame on everyone who has let money rule college football & destroy college basketball. alohachris [/QUOTE]

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