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This conference will continue to hamper recruiting for as long as we're in it.
Gonzaga does alright in a worse conference. WSU did alright in a worse conference.

Stop blaming the conference when we can't even win it.

If we finally get to the point we should be at, winning regular season titles and winning all or almost all of our home games, then start complaining.
 
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Gonzaga does alright in a worse conference. WSU did alright in a worse conference.

Stop blaming the conference when we can't even win it.

If we finally get to the point we should be at, winning regular season titles and winning all or almost all of our home games, then start complaining.
You're delusional if you don't think this garbage conference hurts our recruiting.

Winning the league has zero to do with it. It's about the competition and the exposure that accompanies being part of a major conference.

Calhoun said himself that he would sell kids on playing in the Big East. Good luck selling kids on 9:00pm games @ Tulane on ESPNU. You're at a disadvantage right off the bat.

Gonzaga is the exception, not the rule. And Wichita St. caught lightning in a bottle as a 9-seed to make the 2013 F4. Other than that, they've been better than a 5-seed a grand total of one time in their existence, when they were a #1 in 2014 and didn't even make the second weekend. Terrible example.
 
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Gonzaga does alright in a worse conference. WSU did alright in a worse conference.

Stop blaming the conference when we can't even win it.

If we finally get to the point we should be at, winning regular season titles and winning all or almost all of our home games, then start complaining.
If the discussion is recruiting Gonzaga and WSU have combined for 1 top 25 class in the last 5 years and neither are bringing in consistent studs like we should be, but yes they both have good coaches and have put a successful product on the court. Completely agree that if we start winning the conference we will have absolutely zero issues recruiting great players.
 
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You're delusional if you don't think this garbage conference hurts our recruiting.

Winning the league has zero to do with it. It's about the competition and the exposure that accompanies being part of a major conference.

Calhoun said himself that he would sell kids on playing in the Big East. Good luck selling kids on 9:00pm games @ Tulane on ESPNU. You're at a disadvantage right off the bat.

Gonzaga is the exception, not the rule. And Wichita St. caught lightning in a bottle as a 9-seed to make the 2013 F4. Other than that, they've been better than a 5-seed a grand total of one time in their existence, when they were a #1 in 2014 and didn't even make the second weekend. Terrible example.
Yeah how bout we start winning this f$$$in conference outright before we complain about recruiting . We've been saying the AAC has been holding us back for like 4 seasons, how about we start outpacing it then? We have the talent, something just obviously isn't coming together.
 
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This conference will continue to hamper recruiting for as long as we're in it.


I guess the conferences for Kansas, Florida, Maryland and Villanova are being hampered too because he didn't mention any of them either? I mean one guy gets an offer from KU and we see he'd prefer ACC or PAC12, and bam right back into how much our conference obviously sucks. It does we know, but let's keep visiting it because if the Commissioners from all the p5's are reading they will finally give us a shot.

Man I know it's not the best time to be a UConn mens basketball fan but can you imagine never winning a NC, never having a 25 year run like we had? Funny I just doubt those fans are on their site telling the world their coach blows, their league sucks, they will never be what they once were, this guy sucked that guy is a piece of crap. Every little blurb has something to do with why we suck. The kid got offered by KU he's blowing up, there's other players move on man. Who cares if he's good he's gonna get offers.
 
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After looking at this a few weeks ago, Gonzaga does not do as well in recruiting as people seem to think. In the last 3 years, yeah they've done very well. But not before that.

Wichita St does not recruit highly either.
 
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After looking at this a few weeks ago, Gonzaga does not do as well in recruiting as people seem to think. In the last 3 years, yeah they've done very well. But not before that.

Wichita St does not recruit highly either.
Gonzaga has found a niche. Big white dudes with beards, a few transfers, or anyone French. They found a formula and they stick with it.
 
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Gonzaga does alright in a worse conference. WSU did alright in a worse conference.

Stop blaming the conference when we can't even win it.

If we finally get to the point we should be at, winning regular season titles and winning all or almost all of our home games, then start complaining.

WSU doesn't count yet. Too shirt a time period of high quality results...and they got out of a league that they felt was hampering the success of their program.

Gonzaga is a better example, but since losing to UConn in '99, they have a total of 1 Final Four appearance. Not what we are looking for in Storrs. Not what we have enjoyed in Storrs.

Also, it would be nice to not be fighting for (and losing) players to Big East members Providence, Seton Hall, and Creighton.
 
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I'm not an expert at recruiting strategies, but just because someone like Kansas comes and offers a top target of yours does not mean you bow out.

Kansas is also recruiting Quentin Grimes and Devon Dotson for 2018 (and appear to be seriously considering KU), both of whom play the same position as Carey. Both significantly higher ranked recruits according to "name your favorite recruiting site." If both end up going to Kansas, I have a feeling Carey would not be so keen on playing 3rd guard for 4 years. Yes the ACC/PAC12 comment does not look great, but again Diallo said back in 2016 that at that moment he was coming to UConn -- things change.

My point is, as many as have already stated, recruiting is fluid and let the process play out. Let's not get strung out over an offer, a comment, or any one event.
 
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Why doesn't Penn State, Rutgers, or Washington State recruit well despite being P5?

I don't think anyone is arguing that all you have to do is join the P5 to recruit well.

There are so many other factors involved. For one, you need a fanbase or alumni that care about basketball. But there are other factors as well.

Our fanbase constantly complains (and rightfully so) about the conference schedule and travel and the times; you can't expect recruits not to notice what the fanbase evidently does.
 
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Gonzaga is a weird example since they haven't really brought in highly rated recruits in like a decade. Perkins and Collins are basically the only 2 players since 2010 (that's as far back as I looked on 247) to be even top 100. More recently they've been a destination for high profile transfers, but the whole "they still get big recruits in a crappy conference" schtick is basically not true. They have a fantastic coach who gets everything out of his 3* and occasional 4* guys every year. We have waaaay out-recruited them in the last decade, and even still in the last few years when the sky is falling
 
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Gonzaga is a weird example since they haven't really brought in highly rated recruits in like a decade. Perkins and Collins are basically the only 2 players since 2010 (that's as far back as I looked on 247) to be even top 100. More recently they've been a destination for high profile transfers, but the whole "they still get big recruits in a crappy conference" schtick is basically not true. They have a fantastic coach who gets everything out of his 3* and occasional 4* guys every year. We have waaaay out-recruited them in the last decade, and even still in the last few years when the sky is falling
They've brought in multiple high 4* to 5* transfers lately, along with elite Euro guys who would also be in that range had they played highschool in the US.
 
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You're delusional if you don't think this garbage conference hurts our recruiting.

Winning the league has zero to do with it. It's about the competition and the exposure that accompanies being part of a major conference.

Calhoun said himself that he would sell kids on playing in the Big East. Good luck selling kids on 9:00pm games @ Tulane on ESPNU. You're at a disadvantage right off the bat.

Gonzaga is the exception, not the rule. And Wichita St. caught lightning in a bottle as a 9-seed to make the 2013 F4. Other than that, they've been better than a 5-seed a grand total of one time in their existence, when they were a #1 in 2014 and didn't even make the second weekend. Terrible example.

RECRUITING IS RELATIVE TO YOUR CONFERENCE. Maybe in the AAC, right now we can't recruit with Duke, Kentucky, Kansas and the like, but I don't think anyone is disputing that... you can't keep using the conference as an excuse when we finish in the middle of the pack because SMU, Cincy, Houston, Temple & UCF have to sell the same conference. Recruit the best classes in the AAC, consistently challenge for regular season AAC title, make 2nd weekend in the NCAA tourney and recruiting will fall into place.
 
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Ok. Guess I'm wrong. Sharing a cesspool with Tulane, Tulsa, UCF, USF, Temple, East Carolina, Et al has zero impact. Everything would be solved by simply winning the league and being declared the tallest midget.
 

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The only way to recruit elite talent outside the P5 is tons of winning. Gonzaga gets kids because they win and are ranked highly every year. If we can start doing that, the conference won't hurt as bad.

Yep, perennial Top 15 teams don't have trouble getting looks.
 

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