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Message: [QUOTE="Fan4ever, post: 3214502, member: 7737"] Guys, come on gut check time. We are not in the national headlines discussions anymore with anything positive (exception the recent BE news). It's a what have you done for me lately sport, let's not pretend. Place yourself in the shoes of these kids w/ talent...short road or long road to NBA? You have to start w/ the long road players (unless $$ are part of the deal) and we all know our rep w/ the NCAA gangsters. I agree we need to have several plans (a JAR being optimal), but also realistic plans with players to grow/challenge/coach up. My point is we may get very lucky and land 1, but that will be many moons, stars, legacy's, and Hurley's aligning...rare, and hope is not a strategy. [/QUOTE]