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Message: [QUOTE="LwrcasefaN, post: 4570831, member: 11185"] I think the Ivies get to self-determine what they consider prestigious as does a Vanderbilt or Stanford. I think this is dead in the water even before that definition is explored because...who is it for anyone other than a particular school to say what they will offer or not offer? Even if an athlete claimed they were being hurt by this policy, then the next question would be...why you enter into an agreement that you knew hurt or damaged you. I think I saw some rumbling not too long ago where schools (particularly Ivies) where they are pulling out of that US NEWS Top Universities survey. And there reasoning was basically...they didn't like the "criteria" used to make the determination. Stanford, Rice, Vanderbilt, Boston Colleges are elite academic institutions in their own right and Ivies not offering athletic scholarships doesn't change that. If an athlete receives 70k in financial aid with no label or 70k labeled "a scholarship"...what's the difference? [/QUOTE]