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Message: [QUOTE="UcMiami, post: 2112517, member: 199"] bags27 - I have general agreement with your post in terms of the peer pressure and facilities available at the better academic institutions - I experienced it myself both at the two colleges i attended (one Ivy and one not) and in my grade school/high school experience in Storrs, but I also differ somewhat in my views on Stanford vs Duke and other schools. Of the major sports programs Stanford stands alone as the one school that has a non-negotiable admissions standard higher than that set by the NCAA and as such should be commended. Duke and ND both very good academic schools allow exceptions to their general admissions standards for scholarship athletes as do all the others. So I actually do like Stanford and like when they succeed. And I do think that all serious students on athletic scholarship regardless of school are incredibly challenged by their commitments to their sport, and basketball having a season that includes most of both semesters each school year is one of the most challenging. The level of academic rigor involved has more to do with the student than the school they are attending, so in that regard again I agree, some of the Stanford athletes I am sure stand out, just as some at every school shine in that regard. At any university, there are harder and easier majors, and harder and easier classes and everyone in the student body knows which they are. And many universities stretch those boundaries for their student athletes though I really believe there are not many out and out frauds being perpetrated like there were at UNC. And student athletes receive incredible resources on top of their scholarships devoted to helping them succeed academically, most of them legitimate. And most of the athletes really are motivated to succeed beyond just maintaining their eligibility to play - I have a cousin who has worked tutoring and while some of his charges probably shouldn't be in college, they work really really hard at it, and take incredible pride in the success they achieve, one basketball player was in tears over a good grade he receive on something he didn't think he could do at the beginning of the semester. By the way, I do have a little concern with the Uconn WCBB program when seeing the number of individualized majors - that, like a general studies major can be a red flag for reducing the academic rigor of a course load. And finally - UNC is a cautionary tale for any school that takes great pride in their academic rigor and athletic success - the two are not very compatible and vigilance is required to make sure the goal of athletic success does not corrupt the academic rigor. Edit: And Baylor is a cautionary tale that it isn't just academic rigor that can be corrupted! [/QUOTE]

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