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Is Ollie saving his inbounds plays for Tourney Games?

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SaeHusky said:
I means seriously - it seems we don't run anything. All we ever do is lob the ball in to a big man. Maybe he is going to pull them out of the bag for the AAC tourney
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I said that to my buddy a couple of times today. Most memorably on the possession after Hamilton got torched on a great inbounds play by Cincy under their hoop. We inbounded from under our hoop on the following possession and everyone stood around staring at each other. We honestly don't seem to run any inbounds plays other than the lob to someone.
 
At this point I'm just wondering whether JA's aggressive drives to the basket are by design or if he just has his finger on the pulse of this team moreso than KO and just has a F it mentality.
 
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SaeHusky said:
I means seriously - it seems we don't run anything. All we ever do is lob the ball in to a big man. Maybe he is going to pull them out of the bag for the AAC tourney
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Hmm, that's interesting. Kind of like when I was a kid, whenever I'd eat Dunkaroos (remember those? I loved those), I would only use a tiny bit of the creme on each cookie, then when I'd get to the last one, I'd use all the creme I had saved up and just smother that last cookie and gorge on it. Maybe Ollie's saving all his creme up for the NCAAs.
 
Rico444 said:
Hmm, that's interesting. Kind of like when I was a kid, whenever I'd eat Dunkaroos (remember those? I loved those), I would only use a tiny bit of the creme on each cookie, then when I'd get to the last one, I'd use all the creme I had saved up and just smother that last cookie and gorge on it. Maybe Ollie's saving all his creme up for the NCAAs.
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I don't want Ollie's cream to be backed up.
 
Rico444 said:
Hmm, that's interesting. Kind of like when I was a kid, whenever I'd eat Dunkaroos (remember those? I loved those), I would only use a tiny bit of the creme on each cookie, then when I'd get to the last one, I'd use all the creme I had saved up and just smother that last cookie and gorge on it. Maybe Ollie's saving all his creme up for the NCAAs.
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Mmmm dunkaroos.
 
CAHUSKY said:
I said that to my buddy a couple of times today. Most memorably on the possession after Hamilton got torched on a great inbounds play by Cincy under their hoop. We inbounded from under our hoop on the following possession and everyone stood around staring at each other. We honestly don't seem to run any inbounds plays other than the lob to someone.
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After that same inbounds play by Cincy, I realized that other teams run a play to score a basket, and then if that doesn't play out, get the ball inbounds. We don't run inbound plays; all we do on our inbound "plays" is try to get the ball from out of bounds to inbounds,
 
This is spot on. We don't seem to run anything on offense. This could be why we seem to get burned on inbound plays. They never see them in practice.
 
CAHUSKY said:
I said that to my buddy a couple of times today. Most memorably on the possession after Hamilton got torched on a great inbounds play by Cincy under their hoop. We inbounded from under our hoop on the following possession and everyone stood around staring at each other. We honestly don't seem to run any inbounds plays other than the lob to someone.
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The contrast of those two plays only a few minutes apart was glaring. A definite difference of how the staff's on each team use their practice time.
 
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99% of these geniuses who spend their time creating inbound plays have never won a national championship.
 
pnow15 said:
99% of these geniuses who spend their time creating inbound plays have never won a national championship.
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So KO has already peaked as a coach? Nothing left to accomplish?
 
Rico444 said:
Hmm, that's interesting. Kind of like when I was a kid, whenever I'd eat Dunkaroos (remember those? I loved those), I would only use a tiny bit of the creme on each cookie, then when I'd get to the last one, I'd use all the creme I had saved up and just smother that last cookie and gorge on it. Maybe Ollie's saving all his creme up for the NCAAs.
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THIS!
 
pnow15 said:
99% of these geniuses who spend their time creating inbound plays have never won a national championship.
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Do you not see the lack of offensive sets? It seems that every game we havemore fouls, yet he sits there. Do you really believe KO and the staff are effective this year?
 
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Stinger92860 said:
This is spot on. We don't seem to run anything on offense. This could be why we seem to get burned on inbound plays. They never see them in practice.
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What time are you heading over to practice today?
 
gtcam said:
What time are you heading over to practice today?
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I have had the opportunity to attend a practice, but not this year. You may have missed my sarcasm which was they they can't defend an inbounds because they don't run them in practice, therefore they never get to practice defending them.

Please let me know what offense sets we run besides the high-low which results in Amida or Miller with the ball, 40 feet from the hoop. Please explain to me so I can learn.

EDIT: My bad, I forgot the weave.
 
One of the great basketball jokes of all times was this:
Who was the only guy to hold Michael Jordan to under 20 points a game?
Dean Smith.

Dean Smith scripted the spontaneity out of Jordan's game. No one knew how good Jordan really was.

Ollie has no intention of being the next Dean Smith.

Ollie wants his players to create and take advantage of in game situations.
Unfortunately, with Gibbs, Hamilton and Purvis doing most of the ball handling his offense is handicapped. Jalen is still a freshman.
Sure, JC ran lots of plays. At the end of the play there was a Ray, Rip or Ben waiting to finish. Ollie has a Gibbs, DHam and Purvis. Enough said.

When Ollie brings in the new creative ball handling point guard next year to play along side Jalen, fans will see the beauty in letting players create. And not scripting their movements.
 
The coaching staff is entirely capable and no doubt they have attempted to implement effective plays both on offense and in in-bounds situations. However, no one on this team sets a good screen and no one makes a hard cut. This is what makes the plays ineffective.
KO is an awesome coach, who full deserves our support.
 
I think we've been running decent offensive sets more recently, although there are always stretches when we still do stand around

However, we never get a bunny when in-bounding, we never get a bunny out of a timeout, that's just not part of our arsenal
 
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For years we have had the ball stolen on in bounds plays especially at the end of games. If we get it in bounds and keep possession, it's a victory.
 
Palatine said:
For years we have had the ball stolen on in bounds plays especially at the end of games. If we get it in bounds and keep possession, it's a victory.
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The more I read this thread the more depressed I get.
 
During the Tulsa game when JC was on the sidelines they asked him what he thought about the game today and he mentioned "teams don't go after each other anymore"

The way I interpret this is there is a sliding scale on how aggressively to play offense and subsequently leave your defense out of position. Its the equivalent to a soccer team who holds their shape and tries to selectively counter instead of opening up the game and playing up and down the field.

We show evidence of playing a conservative offense to protect our defense alot: 1) We never play 2 for 1. Never. 2) When we have 2-3 possession lead we take the air out of the ball throw it up and get back. 3) we're very conservative on inbounds plays (I assume to minimize live ball tournovers). We play at a very slow pace. These are all principals of not overextending ourselves and giving up easy baskets as a result. Its predicated on an assumption that the defense is advantaged in the half court in the college game because the players are athletes first and shooters second. Its the nature of the game today.

It also makes it exponentially more infuriating when we miss a layup and it leads to a transition layup or three. Which happens 1-2 times a game.
 
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