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Message: [QUOTE="JordyG, post: 2736960, member: 6819"] In actuality he's made Cleveland relevant in BB when they really shoudn't be. So far by my count he's taken two highly mediocre Cleveland teams to the NBA finals when without him they wouldn't have been .500 teams. I can't name a single player that has done that. He has won that city a championship, returning to the team after the owner said some pretty derogatory things about him. Why aren't you on Durant who left his team for one that had won 73 games the year before? That's a flawed player with thin skin. The truth is Cleveland would be even more of a mess without him. By my reckoning they wuld have been a lottery team every year he'd have stayed in Miami. Trust Gilbert and his "process" much? Yeah, I think LeBron is a flawed person, but not for the reasons you and many others cite him for. [/QUOTE]