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Nova is shooting 30% from three for the season. At the end of the first half, Nova has 16 three point attempts 31%) and 12 two point attempts (42%). Why would a bad three point shooting team do such a thing? That's just bad coaching.
 

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Didn't you answer your own question? 31% x 3 > 42% x 2, 0.93 points per possession is better than 0.84 points per possession, not even counting greater chance of long (offensive) rebounds with 3 pointers.

Villanova at the half has 12 turnovers vs 6 for Iowa, and they've allowed Iowa to shoot 46% from 3. Those are their failings.
 

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Didn't you answer your own question? 31% x 3 > 42% x 2, 0.93 points per possession is better than 0.84 points per possession, not even counting greater chance of long (offensive) rebounds with 3 pointers.

Villanova at the half has 12 turnovers vs 6 for Iowa, and they've allowed Iowa to shoot 46% from 3. Those are their failings.
I understand that they aren't lighting it up from 2, but if you shoot 30% from three, you have to give some of those up for penetration or a pass to get a much higher %2.

If you can make the argument of a better chance of getting a rebound, I can counter with better chance of getting 2 foul shots with a drive. Of course, my argument sucks again cause they haven't been lights out from the line either (50%).

Maybe they just suck :)
 

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And now they are 5/21 (24%) from three and 11/20 from 2 (55%) - yet they keep trying the three.... Down 55-43
 

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and then they hit three threes in a row to get it to 55 - 52 (33.3%)
 
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I would like to see them get the ball to Pinkston a bit more on the block, but the three's seem to be falling for now. Good game.
 

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Apparently, I'm stupid - keep shooting them.
 
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1.) I don't understand why Pinkston wasn't in for Villanova down the stretch. I'm not sure they give up two offensive rebounds with him in there.

2.) That kid Arcidiacono can't miss inside two minutes. I remember him killing us last year in Gampel.
 
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88-83 OT Nice win for Villanova. Beat #'s 2 and 23, Nova will definitely be ranked.
 

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New year, new conference, same old Villanova.

-Shoot a zillion 3's (and hope for the best)
-Use zero post players (but send 4 guards to the boards and rebound fairly well)
-Play "tough" perimeter defense (by hand-checking like crazy)

That formula never really translates well in March, especially this year with the new rules.

Sure they'll have some really nice wins during the year, and their win total will probably be higher than usual with the new, weaker, Big East, but it's almost guaranteed they will make no noise when it matters in March and April.
 
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88-83 OT Nice win for Villanova. Beat #'s 2 and 23, Nova will definitely be ranked.

Do we root for Nova? Nope.......fk the Big East! Iowa blew it.......Nova is very strange but found a way, give them credit. Iowa's tall white dude was playing with both eyes gouged out and that hurt them. Somehow took a knee to one which opened up a cut and blackened his eye and then got poked straight in the eye so it was watering while shooting foul shots........dude was a mess!!

Roy Marble Jr is a real nice player but tried to do a little too much at the wrong times last night.......in a weird sloppy way, it was a pretty entertaining game!
 
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Nova's bench out scored their starters 47-41. Excellent bench scoring.
 

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Other than competing with UConn's climb in the polls, I'm neutral about the NBE. They didn't destroy the conference (at least not directly) and Gt tried it's best to keep things together. I reserve my animosity to the ACC, particularly to Cuse, Pitt and BCU.

I don't want to see the B!G, ACC or B1G12 doing well. I want UConn to do very well obviously, and hope that one of the P5 decides it needs another bb powerhouse. Yes football is the primary driver, but people who don't assign any value to bb are ignoring an important money maker for conferences.

So I'm happy Iowa lost. Now it's up to UConn takes care of business.
 

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Nova has a lot of the same players back that beat us last year. Experience is a valuable thing (despite the incessant praise of freshmen by the talking heads)
 
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New year, new conference, same old Villanova.

-Shoot a zillion 3's (and hope for the best)
-Use zero post players (but send 4 guards to the boards and rebound fairly well)
-Play "tough" perimeter defense (by hand-checking like crazy)


That formula never really translates well in March, especially this year with the new rules.

Sure they'll have some really nice wins during the year, and their win total will probably be higher than usual with the new, weaker, Big East, but it's almost guaranteed they will make no noise when it matters in March and April.

Isn't the bolded part more or less us the last few years? We are without a doubt a better shooting team this year than Nova (We shot 34% from 3 last year, 33 the year before and Nova was 33% last year, 32 the year before), but we do take lots of 3's, we have no inside game, our best rebounder is 6-0, and our perimeter defense has always been very solid/aggressive.
 
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Isn't the bolded part more or less us the last few years? We are without a doubt a better shooting team this year than Nova (We shot 34% from 3 last year, 33 the year before and Nova was 33% last year, 32 the year before), but we do take lots of 3's, we have no inside game, our best rebounder is 6-0, and our perimeter defense has always been very solid/aggressive.
UConn never handchecked like Nova did and still does. I remember Kyle Lowry literally shoving guys with his hands and not getting fouls called on him.
 
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UConn never handchecked like Nova did and still does. I remember Kyle Lowry literally shoving guys with his hands and not getting fouls called on him.

Definitely true but I think that team (Lowry, Nardi, Ray, and Foye) was an extreme example of hand checking defense. I don't remember any Nova team playing like that since they all left and that was, what, 06 or so?
 
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Definitely true but I think that team (Lowry, Nardi, Ray, and Foye) was an extreme example of hand checking defense. I don't remember any Nova team playing like that since they all left and that was, what, 06 or so?

Yea that was 06, but it continued on with their 09 FF team with Corey Fischer and all those random 6'4"-6'5" guys, and Maalik Wayans was guilty of it a lil bit himself
 
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